We Thank Thee O God For...Nevermind

[_Aristotle Smith]

Um, the front page of the LDS.org website?



Nobody in the class referred to this?

http://www.LDS.org/liahona/2012/03/why- ... s?lang=eng

I don't know, I wasn't there. But the question was "What has Thomas S. Monson taught?" not "Why are modern prophets important?"

I just skimmed the article, and it also doesn't identify anything Monson has taught.

I also have to say that the sacrament meeting talks were about the importance of following the prophet. When you think about it, that's a really odd thing to talk about. The average Protestant doesn't give multiple sermons about why the Bible is important, they tend to just talk about what is in the Bible. That the Bible is important is usually understood.

Actually, the Methodist church I attend is a good example. The whole Lenten theme this year is about returning to the Bible. So, there will be six sermons on the topic. But not one of them will be about why the Bible is so important. The first sermon in the series was a church wide invitation to read the Bible in 90 days. The next five have been/will be of the "Greatest Hits" variety where the preacher will hit the highlights of the Bible, presumably to bring out the most important teachings in the Bible. But notice that it's mainly talking about what's in there, not generic platitudes about why it's important.

So I would expect Mormons to do something similar, talk about all of the great things the current prophet is saying. But when he isn't saying squat, all you can do is fall back on his words being important in some generic sense. Not that they are actually important, which could be shown with examples, but that in some theoretical sense his teachings are important, should he ever decide to give any.

[_Equality]

So, Thomas S. Monson has been prophet for over 4 years at this point. And yet, no one in my wife's class could name a single thing he has taught. If he doesn't say anything for 4 years, it seems to me that having a prophet isn't all that important. If having modern day revelation is so important, why in the course of 4 years has not Monson said anything other than that which you can read in an average "Chicken Soup for the Soul" book?

TSM has taught the Gospel as we are to know it which is essentially the definition of prophecy (Rev 19:10)

Notice the lack of any mention of a specific teaching from Thomas S. Monson that someone might consider important. Looks like bcspace would have sat dumbfounded along with the rest of the class. If I'd been there, I think I probably would have cited the very important revelation that Sacrament meeting speakers should refrain from asking the congregation to follow along in their scriptures when the speaker refers to a specific scripture verse. Who can doubt the prophetic sagacity of Tommy Boy when he serves up such pearls?

[_sock puppet]

GBH said it...we don't need much revelation anymore.

Maybe for Mad Max: Beyond City Creek Mall, Tina Turner will re-tool her song We Don't Need Another Hero (the way Elton John did Candle in the Wind into Goodbye England's Rose for Princess Diana's funeral). Maybe it would go something like this:

WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ... PROPHET

OUT OF THE CHAPEL
OUT FROM THE STAKE HOUSE
CAN`T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THIS TIME
WE ARE THE CHILDREN
THE LAST GENERATION
WE ARE THE ONES THEY LEFT BEHIND
AND I WONDER IF IT WILL EVER CHANGE
LIVING UNDER COB, CORRELATION IS ALL THAT REMAINS

WE DON`T NEED ANOTHER PROPHET
WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT GOD'S HOME
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
CITY CREEK'S DOME

LOOKING FOR SOMETHING
WE CAN RELY ON
THERE`S GOTTA BE SOMETHING BETTER OUT THERE
LOVE AND COMPASSION
THEIR DAY IS COMING
ALL ELSE ARE TEMPLES BUILT IN THE AIR
AND I WONDER WHEN WE ARE EVER GONNA CHANGE
LIVING UNDER CITY CREEK DOME, NOTHING ELSE REMAINS

ALL THE CHILDREN SAY
WE DON`T NEED ANOTHER PROPHET
WE DON`T NEED REVELATION
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
MERE CORRELATION

SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR TIME
WE ALL DO HOME TEACHING
WILL IT END IN SUNDAY'S P.E.C.
OR END IN THE DARK
GIVE IT ALL OR NOTHING

WE DON`T NEED ANOTHER PROPHET
WE KNOW HOW MANY EARRINGS TO WEAR
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
CITY CREEK'S LAIR

[_Nightlion]

TSM has taught the Gospel as we are to know it which is essentially the definition of prophecy (Rev 19:10)

No, TSM, has never once in his life ever taught the gospel of Jesus Christ that equates to the spirit of prophecy. He denies the power thereof and cops for the appearance of righteousness as do all Mormons, in complete and profound ignorance of the liberty of Zion. They just do not know and blindness has overcome them all. The prophets today allow those who are not cleansed in the sanctification of the blood of Christ's atonement to partake of the sacrament, receive the priesthood, enter the temple, serve in authority. All these are an abomination and at war against the commandments of Christ and his Church. It is apostasy and will be burned off by the brightness of Christ's coming for he has verily said that abomination shall not reign.

Those who teach the gospel in truth will insist that you are born of God, visited by the promise of the Father having Christ put his name upon you after you have rightly humbled yourself to take upon you the name of Christ with full purpose of heart by truly forsaking the love of the world and casting aside as a filthy rag. No Mormon knows this or teaches it and folly is all they own.

No LDS leader has ever demanded the gospel not one. Not even Joseph. This was ever their doom and condemnation and why the Lord gave them strong delusion that they might believe a lie (we can become our own gods with infinite genie powers.....muhahahahah!) because they had pleasure in a false way and did not honor and uphold and sustain and hold inviolate the power of godliness which is the only gospel that does not come of evil.

[_moksha]

I would argue that having no revelations is better than making them up. Plus things are getting better: We are forgetting the reason for highly speculative and troublesome doctrines. Sometimes you need to take baby steps for balance. Forget now and when you awake it will be gone.

President Monson serves a vital role as the spiritual rudder for the Church. That is sufficient.

[_zeezrom]

I would argue that having no revelations is better than making them up. Plus things are getting better: We are forgetting the reason for highly speculative and troublesome doctrines. Sometimes you need to take baby steps for balance. Forget now and when you awake it will be gone.

President Monson serves a vital role as the spiritual rudder for the Church. That is sufficient.

Hey Moksha!

So, what exactly is a spiritual rudder, if you don't mind?

[_sock puppet]

I would argue that having no revelations is better than making them up.

Right you are, Penguin. Monson doesn't want to get his ass hauled off to the Carthage Jail like that predecessor who was making up revelations, like polygamy, was.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Recently the church has done a lot to cover up the statements of past prophets. Monson must have something to do with it. Does that count for something?

[_moksha]

Hey Moksha!

So, what exactly is a spiritual rudder, if you don't mind?

It is that which determines the course for our Ship of Saints. Face one direction and you can change the course to another direction. Face straight on and the ship will proceed ahead.

If we proceed with this metaphor, it might lead to someone designated as the spiritual anchor who can bring all progress to a halt.

[_Dr. Shades]

Monson is keeping his head down after:
Gaygate
BaptismGate
PattonGate
CityCreekGate
BlackGate
ApostasyGate
JanitorGate

LOL!

I'm drawing a blank over "PattonGate." Will you please refresh my memory?

Also, can we reasonably add "BottGate" to that list?