Drifting wrote: Can you give an example of a sexual fantasy that is neither lustful nor pornish?
Use your imagination.
Come on, you claim a fantasy doesn't have to be lustful of pornish. Give an example of a sexual fantasy that is neither lustful nor pornish.
Or have your fingers been writing checks your brain can't cash?
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Drifting wrote: Can you give an example of a sexual fantasy that is neither lustful nor pornish?
Use your imagination.
lust [luhst] Show IPA noun 1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
So I guess a non-lustful fantasy would be thinking that you'd maybe sort of like to have sex with your wife if she isn't too busy, but stopping short of actually imagining it.
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DarkHelmet wrote:I don't think any TBM would agree with what Raquel Welch is saying.
"My fantasies were all made up on my own. They’re ruining us with all the explanations and the graphicness. Nobody remembers what it’s like to be left to form your own ideas about what’s erotic and sexual. We’re not allowed any individuality. I thought that was the fun of the whole thing. It’s my fantasy. I didn’t pick it off the Internet somewhere."
TBMs are taught to avoid evil thoughts. If any sexual fantasies enter your mind, you are to replace it with your favorite hymn.
Would that not then associate hymns with sexual thoughts, thereby creating a conditioned response when hearing your favorite hymn?
Drifting wrote:Come on, you claim a fantasy doesn't have to be lustful of pornish.
Actually he said fantsies do need to be lustful and pornish.
why me wrote:Married people can have their fantasies. And single people too. A fantasy is not evil. It is natural. However, a fantasy does need to be lustful or pornish. And this is what Raquel is saying.
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DarkHelmet wrote:I don't think any TBM would agree with what Raquel Welch is saying.
"My fantasies were all made up on my own. They’re ruining us with all the explanations and the graphicness. Nobody remembers what it’s like to be left to form your own ideas about what’s erotic and sexual. We’re not allowed any individuality. I thought that was the fun of the whole thing. It’s my fantasy. I didn’t pick it off the Internet somewhere."
TBMs are taught to avoid evil thoughts. If any sexual fantasies enter your mind, you are to replace it with your favorite hymn.
Would that not then associate hymns with sexual thoughts, thereby creating a conditioned response when hearing your favorite hymn?
Hehe! It's like the idea of going and eating a snack to keep from touching yourself. LMAO OH! And tying yourself up. Srsly, you can't make this stuff up!!!
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Raquel Welch and watching her in the movie 1 million BC was at the root of all my adolescent fantasies and realization of how beautiful I found women. It all started at about 6 years old or so because of Raquel.
Well, since the church defines "pornography" as anything that makes a person feel aroused, most of Welch's films and pinup photos would definitely qualify.
So would fantasies, whether they are graphic or not.
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why me wrote:I remember Raquel Welch for the old days. She was one of America's sex symbols of her day. She blames much on porn and prefab imaging. And she was right about the good ol' days. Welch largely blames the rise of internet porn for the change.
"Where is the anticipation and the personalization? It’s all pre-fab now. You have these images coming at you unannounced and unsolicited. It just gets to be so plastic and phony to me," says Welch. "My fantasies were all made up on my own. They’re ruining us with all the explanations and the graphicness. Nobody remembers what it’s like to be left to form your own ideas about what’s erotic and sexual. We’re not allowed any individuality. I thought that was the fun of the whole thing. It’s my fantasy. I didn’t pick it off the Internet somewhere."
Actually, this is also true for Mormonism. When it comes to the internet, I have noticed that most exmo internet personae are exmobots, all sounding the same. No individualization at all without their own ideas or critical thinking skills. Just cows chewing their own cud, each making the same motion with their mouths.
Where does Raquel Welch say we are all sex addicts?
Your premise is malarky. I grant you, you are quite the individual, why me, but an entirely predictible and boring one, and I grant Mormonism the entire credit for that.
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Actually, this is also true for Mormonism. When it comes to the internet, I have noticed that most exmo internet personae are exmobots, all sounding the same. No individualization at all without their own ideas or critical thinking skills. Just cows chewing their own cud, each making the same motion with their mouths.
An excellent observation why me; and most apropos to compare internet exmoism with porn.
Having no basis to provide as to why a reasonable person would believe Mormonism's truth claims, our stalwart internet warriors generally assume that there would be no rational reason not to believe those claims, either.
why me wrote:Actually, this is also true for Mormonism. When it comes to the internet, I have noticed that most exmo internet personae are exmobots, all sounding the same. No individualization at all without their own ideas or critical thinking skills. Just cows chewing their own cud, each making the same motion with their mouths.
You mean, like Fast & Testimony Meeting?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
