Gender an eternal/spiritual 'assignment'
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Re: Gender an eternal/spiritual 'assignment'
Maybe we got to choose a gender in the pre-existence, like we were able to choose the plan, and choose our earthly family. Maybe that's why we have homosexuals and bi-sexuals.
"What gender do you choose?"
"Male"
"Female it is"
"No, I said male"
"Too late."
"What gender do you choose?"
"Male"
"Female it is"
"No, I said male"
"Too late."
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Re: Gender an eternal/spiritual 'assignment'
lulu wrote:Why don't we start with what's observable, reproducable, measurable and falsifiable.
xo
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xy
xy female
xyy
xxy
xxx
xxxy
congenital adrenal hyperplasia due to 21-hydroxylase deficiency
congenital adrenal hyperplasia due to17α-hydroxylase deficiency
Progestin-induced virilisation
Androgen insensitivity syndrome
5-alpha-reductase deficiency
Persistent Müllerian duct syndrome
de la Chapelle syndrome
Mosaicism xx & xy
chimerism xx & xy
Who should be eligable for ordination?
Why or why not?
Only the categories with a penis except for pre 1978 when the penis would also have needed to be white.
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Re: Gender an eternal/spiritual 'assignment'
lulu wrote:Why don't we start with what's observable, reproducable, measurable and falsifiable.
xo
xx
xy
xy female
xyy
xxy
xxx
xxxy
congenital adrenal hyperplasia due to 21-hydroxylase deficiency
congenital adrenal hyperplasia due to17α-hydroxylase deficiency
Progestin-induced virilisation
Androgen insensitivity syndrome
5-alpha-reductase deficiency
Persistent Müllerian duct syndrome
de la Chapelle syndrome
Mosaicism xx & xy
chimerism xx & xy
Who should be eligable for ordination?
Why or why not?
Huh? Can someone explain what is germane here? Okay, everybody loves lulu.
In case nobody has ever noticed before, the Lord is actually focused upon the salvation of men. Women get a free ticket to ride so to speak. Has something to do with priesthood accountability and a NEED to prove yourself faithful. Actually God is a miner for a heart of faith. Since he put women desires unto the man he saves the men. May seem unfashionably incorrect for today, but I don't care. Tomorrow is another day.
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Re: Gender an eternal/spiritual 'assignment'
Nightlion, I don't recognize you anymore with the new avatar.
Lulu was showing the variations of human beings. Where do intersex people fit? Priesthood or no?
Lulu was showing the variations of human beings. Where do intersex people fit? Priesthood or no?
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Nightlion wrote:In case nobody has ever noticed before, the Lord is actually focused upon the salvation of men. Women get a free ticket to ride so to speak. Has something to do with priesthood accountability and a NEED to prove yourself faithful. Actually God is a miner for a heart of faith. Since he put women desires unto the man he saves the men. May seem unfashionably incorrect for today, but I don't care. Tomorrow is another day.
How convenient, that man wrote the books, both historical and religious, and takes upon himself God's name and purports to speak for God... as if God cannot speak for herself.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Nightlion wrote: the Lord is actually focused upon the salvation of men.
But which ones are men, Nightlion? Check all that apply but I must warn you, there is a penalty for guessing, this being the Holy Priesthood after the Order of the Son of G-d after all.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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harmony wrote:Nightlion wrote:In case nobody has ever noticed before, the Lord is actually focused upon the salvation of men. Women get a free ticket to ride so to speak. Has something to do with priesthood accountability and a NEED to prove yourself faithful. Actually God is a miner for a heart of faith. Since he put women desires unto the man he saves the men. May seem unfashionably incorrect for today, but I don't care. Tomorrow is another day.
How convenient, that man wrote the books, both historical and religious, and takes upon himself God's name and purports to speak for God... as if God cannot speak for herself.
NOthing forbid all those mighty women who were so fierce and valiant for the faith of God to stand against their entire generation and NEED the revelations of God to sustain them that they then turn and write their little hearts out on the pages of history...........?...........hmm, not one?
Not one Enocha?
No Noahlea?
Never one Abrahamamame?
Wasn't there a Mosesina? Nah!
How about a Nephiditi?
Well, this is awkward.
Not one noble and great women in all recorded history? That's no good.
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Nightlion wrote:harmony wrote:How convenient, that man wrote the books, both historical and religious, and takes upon himself God's name and purports to speak for God... as if God cannot speak for herself.
NOthing forbid all those mighty women who were so fierce and valiant for the faith of God to stand against their entire generation and NEED the revelations of God to sustain them that they then turn and write their little hearts out on the pages of history...........?...........hmm, not one?
Not one Enocha?
No Noahlea?
Never one Abrahamamame?
Wasn't there a Mosesina? Nah!
How about a Nephiditi?
Well, this is awkward.
Not one noble and great women in all recorded history? That's no good.
It's not called "his"tory for nothing, Nightlion.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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lulu wrote:Nightlion wrote: the Lord is actually focused upon the salvation of men.
But which ones are men, Nightlion? Check all that apply but I must warn you, there is a penalty for guessing, this being the Holy Priesthood after the Order of the Son of G-d after all.
Your new so you get a pass on not knowing that I eschew the science of men. Women are the softer sex, wonderful to the touch and very desirable. When the Lord challenges men to BE MEN I have to think that being a man is more than what's going on on a biology chart.
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Nightlion wrote:Your new so you get a pass on not knowing that I eschew the science of men. Women are the softer sex, wonderful to the touch and very desirable. When the Lord challenges men to BE MEN I have to think that being a man is more than what's going on on a biology chart.
I thought that was the fruit... oh wait... maybe that was light cotton?
And if being a man is more than what's on a biology chart, why is it necessary to have a penis in order to be ordained?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.