Seriously? Dark skin was a metaphor?

[_Buffalo]

"Color" in the Book of Mormon was ALWAYS primarily "metaphorical".... The same way color references in the Bible were always primarily metaphorical.

People who actually read the scriptures have always known this.

Of course, it is also true that there DID seem to be some skin color differences between the two major groups, which would make sense if one was more modern and more Hebrew and the other more primitive. However, we also know from the Book of Mormon that even Lamanites were called WHITE.... Clearly, color in the Book of Mormon was primarily a metaphor in reference to spirituality and purity.

I guess the church leaderships doesn't read the scriptures.

http://LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideN ... 94610aRCRD



The people who followed Nephi obeyed God. They worked hard and were blessed. Nephi taught his people to build with wood and metal. They built a beautiful temple



Laman and Lemuel’s followers called themselves Lamanites. They became a dark-skinned people. God cursed them because of their wickedness.



The Lamanites became lazy and would not work.

[_DarkHelmet]

"Color" in the Book of Mormon was ALWAYS primarily "metaphorical".... The same way color references in the Bible were always primarily metaphorical.

People who actually read the scriptures have always known this.

Of course, it is also true that there DID seem to be some skin color differences between the two major groups, which would make sense if one was more modern and more Hebrew and the other more primitive. However, we also know from the Book of Mormon that even Lamanites were called WHITE.... Clearly, color in the Book of Mormon was primarily a metaphor in reference to spirituality and purity.

I guess the church leaderships doesn't read the scriptures.

http://LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideN ... 94610aRCRD



The people who followed Nephi obeyed God. They worked hard and were blessed. Nephi taught his people to build with wood and metal. They built a beautiful temple



Laman and Lemuel’s followers called themselves Lamanites. They became a dark-skinned people. God cursed them because of their wickedness.



The Lamanites became lazy and would not work.

LOL. I love those storyboards. I posted them on a sports forum a while back and got a bunch of WTF? replies. Non-mormons are speechless when they see something like that taught in the 21st century.

[_Infymus]

"Color" in the Book of Mormon was ALWAYS primarily "metaphorical".... The same way color references in the Bible were always primarily metaphorical.

People who actually read the scriptures have always known this.

Of course, it is also true that there DID seem to be some skin color differences between the two major groups, which would make sense if one was more modern and more Hebrew and the other more primitive. However, we also know from the Book of Mormon that even Lamanites were called WHITE.... Clearly, color in the Book of Mormon was primarily a metaphor in reference to spirituality and purity.

LOL, that's not what I was taught when I was a member.

Always known this? Ah yes, the old blame the members routine.

Face the damned facts, faqs, the Cult of Mormonism has always been racist and has scrambled for years to hide or rewrite doctrine in order to hide facts. And then, cultists like you put the blame on members when they regurgitate doctrine that hasn't been cleaned up by people like you.

I guarantee you if I were to go back to my old ward - in my old neighborhood full of mostly retieries - and go to priesthood and ask them point blank what WHITE and BLACK meant in the Book of Mormon, what it means in the POS, what it means in the Book of Abraham, and what the curse of Cain is - they will give me exactly opposite of the kind of BS you're trying to push now.

Your crap only works on younger chapel Mormons. And it works because leaders and Mormons like you have carefully omitted the truth - warped it to meet your current views (to be politically "correct') and to blame any problems on so-called Anti-Mormon "lies".

And this is exactly why I am NOT a Mormon anymore. Because I have integrity and pure honesty. I KNEW why Blacks could not hold the priesthood - they were NOT VALIANT in the PE. They are the linage of Cain. They were fence sitters. Every single time a group of people fell away from the prophets God cursed them with the skin of blackness. This is PURE Mormon Doctrine that people like you and your leaders are trying to dismiss, cover up, or just straight up blatantly lie about.

Of course, the cult of Mormonism will never apologize, never admit they were wrong.

Mormons like you Faqs and Peterson - make me sick.

[_LDS truthseeker]

When the Lamanites repented and became good again, it doesn't say that their skin color stayed the same but the curse was taken away, it says the curse was taken away AND their skin became white. So obviously if the skin color changes back and forth based on whether or not they are cursed, the curse, is in effect, the dark skin.

3 Nephi 2:15
"And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites."

[_bcspace]

Poor Mitt Romney. The relatively recent manual BC quoted demonstrates the LDS church still clings to its racist past, and it will be an albatross around Romney's neck.

How is it racist?

[_bcspace]

What kind of help are you looking for?

The church is under the spotlight at the moment because of its appalling history of belief that God is bothered about skin color. Splitting hairs (not the curse but sign of curse) does absolutely nothing to get the church out of the mess it is in.

The curse happened to light skinned people and it wasn't because of their skin color. So how is this racist?

[_bcspace]

That's just personal opinion. It's not official church doctrine.

No, it's published by the Church which is the standard for doctrine.

[_bcspace]

According to AoF2, we believe people will be judged on their own sins, not for the sins of their lineage or their family.

God does not punish innocents.

That is correct. Laman and Lemuel's children will not be punished for their father's sins, etc.

[_Infymus]

When the Lamanites repented and became good again, it doesn't say that their skin color stayed the same but the curse was taken away, it says the curse was taken away AND their skin became white. So obviously if the skin color changes back and forth based on whether or not they are cursed, the curse, is in effect, the dark skin.

3 Nephi 2:15
"And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites."

Even Spencer W. Kimball said that the Navajo placement program was causing the children to become whiter than those still on the reservations. He didn't say "pure and delightsome", he said WHITER.

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_lamanite ... ogram.html

Jacob 3:8 8 O my brethren, I fear that unless ye shall repent of your sins that their skins will be whiter than yours, when ye shall be brought with them before the throne of God.

Alma 3:6 6 And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.

Mormon Cult Doctrine: If you disobey your skill will be turned black. If you obey, your skin will become white.

No matter what people like Faqs or Peterson etc try to say, they just can't hide the fact that Mormonism has a racist past and current racist doctrine in the Book of Mormon.

[_lulu]

. . . it's published by the Church which is the standard for doctrine.

That's just your personal opinion, its not official church doctrine.