Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible

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Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible

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http://www.LDS.org/ensign/1996/12/when- ... e?lang=eng

Keep your eyes riveted on the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. We will not lead you astray. We cannot.


I hope bcspace is reading this and will repent of his disbelief in the global flood.
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Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.
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bcspace wrote:Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.


Together they have determined that the flood was global. Here to help.
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Notice the context that it is together they will not and cannot lead us astray.
Together they have determined that the flood was global.


Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation. Notice also how well this dovetails with:

Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine.
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Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible

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bcspace wrote:Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation.


Irrelevant.

Astray
adverb

Into error
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible

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But what if the statement is made by the FP, in a written statement, on church letterhead, and in that statement they say that it is doctrine?
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DarkHelmet wrote:But what if the statement is made by the FP, in a written statement, on church letterhead, and in that statement they say that it is doctrine?


It depends. What does President Newsroom say about it?
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Buffalo wrote:Irrelevant.

Astray
adverb

Into error

The key is indeed understanding what astray really means. But into error is just one definition. When I look up astray in "www.dictionary.com" the first definition I get is "out of the right way; off the correct or known road, path, or route." When I hear the LDS leadership say God will not let them lead the members astray, I believe it means God knew ahead of time the likeliness that they would lead the members in the way that God wanted them to go, and chose them accordingly, confident that they will get God's message very close, and ready to stop those LDS leaders by any means available if they got too far off message.

Will there be some errors in some of the things the leaders teach? I think it's inevitable that there will be some such errors. But God has picked and chosen the LDS leaders to speak for Him because He knows that they are going to do a better job of leading us to eventually understanding God than anybody else in the world is going to do.
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Indeed. But notice that such does not lead me from salvation.


Irrelevant.

Astray
adverb

Into error


Completely relevant as to the consequential effects.
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Re: Official doctrine: general authorities are infallible

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KevinSim wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Irrelevant.

Astray
adverb

Into error

The key is indeed understanding what astray really means. But into error is just one definition. When I look up astray in "www.dictionary.com" the first definition I get is "out of the right way; off the correct or known road, path, or route." When I hear the LDS leadership say God will not let them lead the members astray, I believe it means God knew ahead of time the likeliness that they would lead the members in the way that God wanted them to go, and chose them accordingly, confident that they will get God's message very close, and ready to stop those LDS leaders by any means available if they got too far off message.

Will there be some errors in some of the things the leaders teach? I think it's inevitable that there will be some such errors. But God has picked and chosen the LDS leaders to speak for Him because He knows that they are going to do a better job of leading us to eventually understanding God than anybody else in the world is going to do.


If the teaching of false doctrine is acceptable, then there never was any apostasy.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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