Droopy wrote:All I've said is that she is clearly not a "believing" or "faithful" Mormon as she wants others to believe, as she clearly:
1. Does not accept significant aspects of the Church's fundamental truth claims
2. Is openly in rebellion against the Church and the Lord's anointed servants on key issues of social/spiritual concern.
You seem to be saying that in order to be a believing and faithful member of the Church you should keep your personal views and opinions to yourself unless they are fully in harmony with what the Church or it's Leaders teach.
Also, Brooks has been writing non mainstream stuff for a long time. How come the Church hasn't reacted to her the way Bott has been dealt with recently?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Also, Brooks has been writing non mainstream stuff for a long time. How come the Church hasn't reacted to her the way Bott has been dealt with recently?
Well, yes. How come?
I mean, it couldn't be that LDS leaders feel quite confident about squashing an obscure professor of religion at BYU (very unlikely to dare to answer back if he wants to keep his job), but don't dare to face the PR backlash that would be inevitable if it tried the same on a much better known and highly articulate person - one, moreover, who does not depend on them for a salary check.
I suppose We Don't Know Why.
No doubt Droopy will explain, however.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Drifting wrote:Also, Brooks has been writing non mainstream stuff for a long time. How come the Church hasn't reacted to her the way Bott has been dealt with recently?
It could be argued that Professor Hancock's Meridian Magazine piece is the first salvo.
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zeezrom wrote:Why is politics such a big deal in within the Mormon religion?
It only is in certain extraordinarily warped and sectarian minds. Please do not confuse this salad of copy pasta with Mormonism in all its rich, problematic, beautiful, disturbing, inspiring and confounding history. Such stunted sputtering neither respects nor loves Mormonism. Or anything else about humanity for that matter.
Maybe I should have said "contemporary Mormon culture" instead of Mormon religion.
All my TBM friends and family just love talking politics. Isn't there anything else?
I'll have to think about your adjectives stated above.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Droopy wrote: Brooks does not seem to be aware that successful change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation through reparative therapy for those uncomfortable with their homosexuality and who desire and are motivated to change is now undeniable and well established, and that even the American Psychological Association has long ago modified its original blanket denial of such a possibility.
Let's get real. It's not well-established. It's pseudo-science and it doesn't work. You of all people should know that, but we all know how deep your denial goes.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Droopy wrote: All I've said is that she is clearly not a "believing" or "faithful" Mormon as she wants others to believe,
Brooks does not present herself this way at all (you are putting words in her mouth). Here is what she does say about herself:
“I’m a writer who provides cultural commentary. I am not special. It’s a common part of what it means to be a person of faith, to question. I’m just willing to say out loud that I wrestle with my faith.”
Your denial is noted but this is the wrong thread...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator