Interesting article for Youth about Heavenly Father
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Interesting article for Youth about Heavenly Father
http://www.LDS.org/liahona/2012/02/our- ... n?lang=eng
It seems not much is hidden from the youth. From the article:
Heavenly Parents: A Powerful Truth
“Consider the power of the idea taught in our beloved song ‘I Am a Child of God’ (Hymns, 1985, no. 301). … Here is the answer to one of life’s great questions, ‘Who am I?’ I am a child of God with a spirit lineage to heavenly parents. That parentage defines our eternal potential. That powerful idea is a potent antidepressant. It can strengthen each of us to make righteous choices and to seek the best that is within us.”
Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “Powerful Ideas,” Ensign, Nov. 1995, 25.
Joseph Smith Teaches about God the Father
Joseph Smith taught us much about the true nature of God because he saw Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and received many revelations.
What kind of being is He? “God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!”1
What does He look like? “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s.”2 “If you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—like yourselves.”3
What is our relationship to God? “If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.”4 “The Great Parent of the universe looks upon the whole of the human family … as His offspring.”5
The One True God
“The Father is the one true God. This thing is certain: no one will ever ascend above Him; no one will ever replace Him. … He is Eloheim, the Father. He is God. Of Him there is only one.”
President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “The Pattern of Our Parentage,” Ensign, Nov. 1984,.
I see no humans as god's of other planets...just that no one will acsend above him in what Packer said.
What is hidden?
It seems not much is hidden from the youth. From the article:
Heavenly Parents: A Powerful Truth
“Consider the power of the idea taught in our beloved song ‘I Am a Child of God’ (Hymns, 1985, no. 301). … Here is the answer to one of life’s great questions, ‘Who am I?’ I am a child of God with a spirit lineage to heavenly parents. That parentage defines our eternal potential. That powerful idea is a potent antidepressant. It can strengthen each of us to make righteous choices and to seek the best that is within us.”
Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “Powerful Ideas,” Ensign, Nov. 1995, 25.
Joseph Smith Teaches about God the Father
Joseph Smith taught us much about the true nature of God because he saw Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and received many revelations.
What kind of being is He? “God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!”1
What does He look like? “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s.”2 “If you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—like yourselves.”3
What is our relationship to God? “If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.”4 “The Great Parent of the universe looks upon the whole of the human family … as His offspring.”5
The One True God
“The Father is the one true God. This thing is certain: no one will ever ascend above Him; no one will ever replace Him. … He is Eloheim, the Father. He is God. Of Him there is only one.”
President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “The Pattern of Our Parentage,” Ensign, Nov. 1984,.
I see no humans as god's of other planets...just that no one will acsend above him in what Packer said.
What is hidden?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith
We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith
We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
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why me wrote:I see no humans as god's of other planets...just that no one will acsend above him in what Packer said.
What is hidden?
Henry B. Eyring, October 2002 Ensign
Our conviction is that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to live the life that He does. We learn both the spiritual things and the secular things “so we may one day create worlds [and] people and govern them” (Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).
Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual: Section 138 - Vision of the Redemption of the Dead
D&C 138:12–17. Will Many People Be Saved in the Celestial Kingdom?
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President Spencer W. Kimball said in a general priesthood meeting:
“Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. I suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. I think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000.
“Just think of the possibilities, the potential. Every little boy that has just been born becomes an heir to this glorious, glorious program. When he is grown, he meets a lovely woman; they are married in the holy temple. They live all the commandments of the Lord. They keep themselves clean. And then they become sons of God, and they go forward with their great program—they go beyond the angels, beyond the angels and the gods that are waiting there. They go to their exaltation.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1975, p. 120; or Ensign, Nov. 1975, p. 80 ; see also Alma 13:10–12 .)
“Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals
To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done.
Presidents of the Church Student Manual - Religion 345
Chapter 5 - Lorenzo Snow - Fifth President of the Church
They Shall Organize Worlds and Rule Over Them
“Only a short time before his death, President Snow visited the Brigham Young University [then Brigham Young Academy], at Provo. President Brimhall escorted the party through one of the buildings; he wanted to reach the assembly room as soon as possible, as the students had already gathered. They were going through one of the kindergarten rooms; President Brimhall had reached the door and was about to open it and go on when President Snow said: ‘Wait a moment, President Brimhall, I want to see these children at work; what are they doing?’ Brother Brimhall replied that they were making clay spheres. ‘That is very interesting,’ the President said. ‘I want to watch them.’ He quietly watched the children for several minutes and then lifted a little girl, perhaps six years of age, and stood her on a table. He then took the clay sphere from her hand, and, turning to Brother Brimhall, said:
“‘President Brimhall, these children are now at play, making mud worlds, the time will come when some of these boys, through their faithfulness to the gospel, will progress and develop in knowledge, intelligence and power, in future eternities, until they shall be able to go out into space where there is unorganized matter and call together the necessary elements, and through their knowledge of and control over the laws and powers of nature, to organize matter into worlds on which their posterity may dwell, and over which they shall rule as gods’” (Snow, Improvement Era, June 1919, 658–59).
“Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide
Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles
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“Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’
“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).
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Darth J wrote:“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).
Spencer Kimball taught this, and then Gordon Hinckley told Mike Wallace of us becoming gods that he didn't know that we teach it, he didn't know that we emphasize it, and the critics cried foul.
But Hinckley really was telling the truth. Today's LDS Church actually doesn't teach it, and it definitely doesn't emphasize it. Kimball and others taught it, but it certainly doesn't play a prominent role in today's church. Other things we teach take a much higher priority. The fact that our eventual exaltation means that God has it planned for us that we will eventually become fully divine ourselves, is really just a footnote. A logical conclusion to the process yes, but a footnote nonetheless.
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KevinSim wrote: The fact that our eventual exaltation means that God has it planned for us that we will eventually become fully divine ourselves, is really just a footnote. A logical conclusion to the process yes, but a footnote nonetheless.
A footnote. Just a little footnote. Mormons believe they can become polygamous Gods after they die.
I don't call that a little footnote.
Getting some ice cream in the spirit prison might be a "little footnote".
Not having a penis in heaven for not being obedient enough might be a footnote.
Damn my coffee is good this morning.
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Infymus wrote:A footnote. Just a little footnote. Mormons believe they can become polygamous Gods after they die.
I don't call that a little footnote.
Infymus, we obviously put emphasis on different things. Latter-day Saints put emphasis on letting Jesus Christ transform our lives; we don't put emphasis on the eventual outcome of the transformation of those lives. You do. That's fine with me. What's a footnote for me and other Latter-day Saints might indeed be a much more important matter for you. Once again, that's fine with me.
Infymus wrote:Not having a penis in heaven for not being obedient enough might be a footnote.
Where in the world did you get the idea of not "having a penis in heaven for not being obedient enough"? I have been an active Latter-day Saint for the 44 years since I was baptized, and I have never heard anyone in the LDS Church imply that a penis or lack of a penis was connected with one's obedience in any way.
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KevinSim wrote:Spencer Kimball taught this, and then Gordon Hinckley told Mike Wallace of us becoming gods that he didn't know that we teach it, he didn't know that we emphasize it, and the critics cried foul.
But Hinckley really was telling the truth. Today's LDS Church actually doesn't teach it, and it definitely doesn't emphasize it. Kimball and others taught it, but it certainly doesn't play a prominent role in today's church. Other things we teach take a much higher priority. The fact that our eventual exaltation means that God has it planned for us that we will eventually become fully divine ourselves, is really just a footnote. A logical conclusion to the process yes, but a footnote nonetheless.
Hinckley was not telling the truth, and many member had to do a double take. He was just trying to get out of an uncomfortable situation. I seem to remember him saying after in conference that he knows what the church teaches with a little smile. It is true that the church does not spend much time on it, but it is still doctrine. I always liked the idea.
I see whyme ran away from the other thread to make a new one here. LOL
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KevinSim wrote:Where in the world did you get the idea of not "having a penis in heaven for not being obedient enough"? I have been an active Latter-day Saint for the 44 years since I was baptized, and I have never heard anyone in the LDS Church imply that a penis or lack of a penis was connected with one's obedience in any way.
You've obviously never been female.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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I don't get all the consternation over this issue. I always liked the doctrine; it's one of the things that made Mormonism interesting. What I criticize is the relatively recent dissembling on the issue, whether by President Hinckley or President Newsroom. I don't get why Mormons are embarrassed by this doctrine, why they want so desperately to fit in with the Protestants. The problem isn't with the doctrine--it's with the flip-flopping. It really makes them look like they aren't serious about their religion.
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KSim wrote:we obviously put emphasis on different things. Latter-day Saints put emphasis on letting Jesus Christ transform our lives;
You put emphasis on whatever the leaders put emphasis on. The leaders in most cases emphasize what their marketing department tells them will sell best and defines the target audience.
If market research were to indicate that the born-again movement is waning, and "let's hear it for Jeeesus!" just not selling anymore, then you wouldn't hear about Christ transforming your life every two minutes. The doctrine currently holds that repentance and good works along with legalistically interpreted ordinances are required to invoke the transformation and at one time ya'll would have fought that battle. Now, that's all in the fine print. If the New Age movement gains significantly more force in a future life of the American mainstream, then the folklore will be dusted off.
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I have seen that elsewhere. One chronic LDS participant paraphrases what I say, puts an LDS slant on it, and then posts it. It was so obvious I finally put him on "ignore."You put emphasis on whatever the leaders put emphasis on. The leaders in most cases emphasize what their marketing department tells them will sell best and defines the target audience.

Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm