Is Professor Bott Retiring or Was He Fired?

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Re: Is Professor Bott Retiring or Was He Fired?

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café crema wrote:So the LDS church hires for it's own university a man whose expertise is Doctrine of the Church. But he doesn't know the doctrine? Calls into question just what either institution knows about church doctrine, one can only hope (and I assume) they do a better job in the other areas taught at the universtity.


LOL.

This whole business of trying to deny all their doctrine is highly amusing.

In the end it just shows that not a single man in Mormonism is inspired nor lead by any kind of Deity. Every single prophet can be overridden by the next one. Maybe the Mormon Jesus needs to go dig up the urim thummim he took back - because he can't see crap for the future. He keeps giving his cronies the wrong information and he has to keep correcting himself year after year.

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This whole business of trying to deny all their doctrine is highly amusing.


The only people doing that appear to be some on the MDD with mod help. The Church itself merely denied Bott's speculations without specifying what those were. I would expect the Church to be quickly changing it's web site and online manuals if it were in the business of denial. Doesn't appear to be happening......
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bcspace wrote:
This whole business of trying to deny all their doctrine is highly amusing.


The only people doing that appear to be some on the MDD with mod help. The Church itself merely denied Bott's speculations without specifying what those were. I would expect the Church to be quickly changing it's web site and online manuals if it were in the business of denial. Doesn't appear to be happening......



Bc, what did Bott say that hadn't already been said by senior Church Leaders since the restoration?
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Bc, what did Bott say that hadn't already been said by senior Church Leaders since the restoration?


He did indeed have some doctrine matching current up-to-date official publications mingled with his speculation. I'll leave that to the student. But if it's mingled with speculation, it's all speculation in context.
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bcspace wrote:
Bc, what did Bott say that hadn't already been said by senior Church Leaders since the restoration?


He did indeed have some doctrine matching current up-to-date official publications mingled with his speculation. I'll leave that to the student. But if it's mingled with speculation, it's all speculation in context.


I believe we should apply this standard to all books written by general authorities. The doctrine therein may be reclassified as speculation, both within their books and when expressed in material published by the church.
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I believe we should apply this standard to all books written by general authorities. The doctrine therein may be reclassified as speculation


Already has been without the "re".
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bcspace wrote:
I believe we should apply this standard to all books written by general authorities. The doctrine therein may be reclassified as speculation


Already has been.


Unfortunately, your reclassifications aren't authoritative or binding.
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Already has been.
Unfortunately, your reclassifications aren't authoritative or binding.


No, but the Church's are. Official publication and such.
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Re: Is Professor Bott Retiring or Was He Fired?

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bcspace wrote:
No, but the Church's are. Official publication and such.


Is the church aware? After all, they denied official published doctrine™ in their Mormonism 101 publication.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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