"For the power is in them."

[_Themis]

And have you ever been in a morgue where they 'classify' people according to race, color, etc.? chase 'em down!!

How is this the same as what just me described?

[_just me]

Well, I disagree that Mormonism will make this world a better place. If they would stop persecuting homosexuals and drop their racist scriptures and sexist practices than maybe we could agree. Oh, and also drop all the unhealthy teaching about sex and sexuality.

As long as my children are still involved with the church I will be unable to "leave it alone."

Are you speaking about teaching morality? And have you ever been in a morgue where they 'classify' people according to race, color, etc.? chase 'em down!!

I am speaking about the teachings and preaching of the LDS church. Are you not familiar with them? Many of them are unhealthy and discriminatory. That is what I am talking about.

You're comment about the morgue is completely irrelevant.

[_Sandra]

I am speaking about the teachings and preaching of the LDS church. Are you not familiar with them? Many of them are unhealthy and discriminatory. That is what I am talking about.

You're comment about the morgue is completely irrelevant.

No it isn't. You just don't want to see that your fundamental reasoning is faulty...

You are focused by hate based bias...

[_just me]

I am speaking about the teachings and preaching of the LDS church. Are you not familiar with them? Many of them are unhealthy and discriminatory. That is what I am talking about.

You're comment about the morgue is completely irrelevant.

No it isn't. You just don't want to see that your fundamental reasoning is faulty...

You are focused by hate based bias...

Show me how labeling dead bodies has anything to do with the teaching that masturbating is sinful or that women are banned from the priesthood. Thanks.

[_Sandra]

No it isn't. You just don't want to see that your fundamental reasoning is faulty...

You are focused by hate based bias...

Show me how labeling dead bodies has anything to do with the teaching that masturbating is sinful or that women are banned from the priesthood. Thanks.

So... lets put this clearly. You want to connect racism with immorality. Both come from a sick mind.

Immorality is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, i.e. a destructive act.

Racism is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, and what it isn't. It is hate for a race based on race. What it isn't: Speaking about a race as a people. Speaking about general situations that effect that people.

[_just me]

So... lets put this clearly. You want to connect racism with immorality. Both come from a sick mind.

Immorality is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, i.e. a destructive act.

Racism is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, and what it isn't. It is hate for a race based on race. What it isn't: Speaking about a race as a people. Speaking about general situations that effect that people.

The accepted usage also includes discrimination against a group of people.

Speaking negative lies about an entire group of people seems awfully racist to me.

Again, what does this have to do with the morgue? Nothing.

[_Sandra]

So... lets put this clearly. You want to connect racism with immorality. Both come from a sick mind.

Immorality is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, i.e. a destructive act.

Racism is a sickness that is rejected by whole people who see it for what it is, and what it isn't. It is hate for a race based on race. What it isn't: Speaking about a race as a people. Speaking about general situations that effect that people.

The accepted usage also includes discrimination against a group of people.

Speaking negative lies about an entire group of people seems awfully racist to me.

Again, what does this have to do with the morgue? Nothing.

What we need to establish is what is considered discrimination? I see no discrimination in the passage quoted from the Book of Mormon.. No one is telling the Jews they can't have stuff that everyone else is getting.. It is actually telling them that they wanted more and because they wanted more... they were going to get more...

Negative lies...?? in whose official opinion..? Show me proof that these were lies.. you are just spouting your own brand of lies... and accusations..

The morgue was brought in (as you well know) to demonstrate that even the official governmental offices use typing and labeling of races without any racism.. you just want everything LDS do to have the label without considering the world we live in as a whole. You want to isolate to do your own prejudicial discriminating ...

[_why me]

Well, I disagree that Mormonism will make this world a better place. If they would stop persecuting homosexuals and drop their racist scriptures and sexist practices than maybe we could agree. Oh, and also drop all the unhealthy teaching about sex and sexuality.

As long as my children are still involved with the church I will be unable to "leave it alone."

This is nonsense. The LDS church does not persecute homosexuals. Nor is the LDS church a racist church. Nor is the teaching about sexuality and sex unhealthy. Just ask all the teenagers that have caught a std, including herpes. The teaching of the LDS church is now up against the world and its loose value structures. But that does not make it unhealthy.

However, I am glad that you are now being more truthful in your posts. You have come out of the closet and are no longer playing the timid mom whose mouth prefers to be closed in meetings.

[_why me]

The accepted usage also includes discrimination against a group of people.

Speaking negative lies about an entire group of people seems awfully racist to me.

This is nonsense too. What lies? What discrimination? Here is the fact: no one was denied membership in the LDS church based on color or sexuality. All could sit in the same pews as anyone else. I think that you must be thinking of a different church.

[_Themis]

The accepted usage also includes discrimination against a group of people.

Speaking negative lies about an entire group of people seems awfully racist to me.

This is nonsense too. What lies?

This is a good thread to show some ares where the church is not being truthful.
http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23103

What discrimination?

The church used to discriminate against black males with the priesthood. It still discriminates against women with the priesthood.

Here is the fact: no one was denied membership in the LDS church based on color or sexuality. All could sit in the same pews as anyone else. I think that you must be thinking of a different church.

Is this your way to try and divert from what the church does deny.