Offended by a Testimony

[_Buffalo]

blah blah blah.... Mormons lie.....

Why don't you list your so-called "lies" and misrepresentations, and I will show you that YOU are the liar.

Of course your TBM wife likely thinks the same as you, she's likely not an expert in Mormonism, thus she is being led by your SNAKE charm, which doesn't tell the whole truth of an issue.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14

Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).

[Guest]

See above....

As I've always said..... People who leave the Church do so because of "ignorance" of their religion.
Like this example.... Anti-mormons believe this idea is actually doctrine, when it NEVER has been.

You all need to stop blaming Mormonism for YOUR OWN ignorance and wicked souls.

[_Buffalo]

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There is no "doctrine" saying we will get our own planets.....

There are lot's of ideas, natural assumptions, etc. in the teachings of a religion that aren't directly "doctrine".

Thus, it is false to say we will get our own planets. We have no idea what we will get. But the scripture is clear that we will "inherit all the father hath", etc. etc., and thus a natural assumption and thought within Mormonism is that we will get our own planets.

A thought and idea sometimes taught however doesn't make "doctrine".
Anti-mormons and even some Mormons need to learn the difference.

You should alert the first presidency that false doctrine is being taught on the church website and in manuals:

http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?h ... 94610aRCRD

“Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’"

[_ldsfaqs]

Sad you people are.....

I didn't say it was "false doctrine"..... I said it's not a "doctrine".
Learn the difference. It's an assumption, an idea within Mormonism, that is yes has been taught.

But maybe you have forgotten. There are all kinds of ideas and teachings in Mormonism, in manuals that aren't and never have been "doctrine".

Manuals teach philosphy, math, etc. etc..... That doesn't make them doctrine.

[_Tobin]

ldsfaqs and bcspace are right. It is NOT a "true" doctrine of the Church. However, they are mistaken in stating it wasn't taught like it was doctrine of the Church in the past. There are plenty of former prophets of the Church that have speculated along the lines and said as much that man can be God and rule their own worlds. Those prophets that taught this were WRONG as are the many members that have taught it and believed it.

It is a simple fact that Man is not God and can never be God. And to aspire to as much is blasphemy and false doctrine. I would liken such Mormons to being more like Lucifer and his aspirations to be God in the war in heaven. They are seeking things they should not and committing a great sin.

[_Buffalo]

Sad you people are.....

I didn't say it was "false doctrine"..... I said it's not a "doctrine".
Learn the difference. It's an assumption, an idea within Mormonism, that is yes has been taught.

But maybe you have forgotten. There are all kinds of ideas and teachings in Mormonism, in manuals that aren't and never have been "doctrine".

Manuals teach philosphy, math, etc. etc..... That doesn't make them doctrine.

You said: "Thus, it is false to say we will get our own planets."

So it's false doctrine. You're accusing LDS Leadership of priestcraft!

[_Jason Bourne]

So you won't get your own planets? Do you feel disappointed?

There is no "doctrine" saying we will get our own planets.....

There are lot's of ideas, natural assumptions, etc. in the teachings of a religion that aren't directly "doctrine".

Thus, it is false to say we will get our own planets, and then say it's a DOCTRINE (like anti-mormons do). We have no idea what we will get. But the scripture is clear that we will "inherit all the father hath", etc. etc., and thus a natural assumption and thought within Mormonism is that we will get our own planets. This is why the idea can sometimes be found, such as with some LDS manuals.

A thought, an idea, assumptions and speculations sometimes taught doesn't and never has made "doctrine".
Anti-mormons and even some Mormons need to learn the difference.[/quote]


Like it or not Mr erroneous FAQs, the LDS Church has taught in official publications that exalted humans will create and populate planets. If you want to be particular perhaps saying we get our very own planet is not accurate. But the idea that to be a god means to do exactly what the other gods before have done, and that is create and people worlds with our spirit off spring has been taught as doctrine.

[_ldsfaqs]

Read again, I "clarified" my statement.
You posted before I read over my statement and saw the mistype.

[_Themis]

After reading most of them, there's yet to be anything about 101 that is misleading or false or denotes a change in doctrine.

Yes the typical dodge and dance. BC do Mormons believe that becoming gods simply means to participate in the divine nature of God? Is there anything more beyond that or is that it as the FAQ states?

I have said more then once he is willing to say white is black and black is white.

[_Jason Bourne]

Manuals teach philosphy, math, etc. etc..... That doesn't make them doctrine.

Talk to your fellow apologist BC Space. He says if the church publishes it, it is official doctrine and he has a source to back it up.

SEE BC SPACE! I have been telling you all along that most apologists will not accept manuals as official doctrine. You you please correct your fellow apologist here?