kairos wrote:so where did all the concubines come from to tempt all those men? no tell me where just one(1) concubine came from-thoughts, impressions on the source of the concubines and the desire the have more than one wife ala david and solomon- something is fishy here!!
It was all those red-headed second cousins.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
TAK wrote:[What a bunch of crap.. We're that true the migrating Mormons would not have suffered the death and losses crossing the plains.
You are assuming the migrating Mormons had been faithful. They reason they were driven across the plains was because they had NOT been faithful. Make sure you understand the history of the church before you make poor assumptions.
Really ??! So the Martin and Willie Handcart Company was unfaithful?? I get throwing dead Prophets under the bus but seriously you need to trash the pioneers to make your religion fit your silly ideas??
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
just me wrote:I am unaware of any that fit the bill for what is described in the Book of Mormon. Perhaps you can be more precise. Lots of ruins does not a match make.
The epi-Olmec culture seems promising.
just me wrote:If none of the Lehites had the Levitical priesthood they couldn't have had a temple and performed the sacrifices required by the Law of Moses. No priests.
You don't understand the Bible very well. Neither Moses nor Abraham were Levites and offered sacrifices to the Lord.
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Tobin wrote:You are assuming the migrating Mormons had been faithful. They reason they were driven across the plains was because they had NOT been faithful. Make sure you understand the history of the church before you make poor assumptions.
Really ??! So the Martin and Willie Handcart Company was unfaithful?? I get throwing dead Prophets under the bus but seriously you need to trash the pioneers to make your religion fit your silly ideas??
Ah, yes. The faithful early pioneers got driven from place to place because they were doing exactly what the Lord told them to do. You can believe any fiction you want, but I'm surprised you don't understand being unfaithful.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Ah, yes. The faithful early pioneers got driven from place to place because they were doing exactly what the Lord told them to do. You can believe any fiction you want, but I'm surprised you don't understand being unfaithful.
So when they got to Utah they became, overnight, faithful. LOL
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just me wrote:I am unaware of any that fit the bill for what is described in the Book of Mormon. Perhaps you can be more precise. Lots of ruins does not a match make.
The epi-Olmec culture seems promising.
just me wrote:If none of the Lehites had the Levitical priesthood they couldn't have had a temple and performed the sacrifices required by the Law of Moses. No priests.
You don't understand the Bible very well. Neither Moses nor Abraham were Levites and offered sacrifices to the Lord.
Um, Lehi lived during the Law of Moses when the Aaronic priestly duties were restricted to the Levites.
Do you have a source in which I can read more about the "epi-Olmec culture" that is a promising match? Thanks. Oh, also, is this the Nephite camp or the Lamanite camp?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:Um, Lehi lived during the Law of Moses when the Aaronic priestly duties were restricted to the Levites.
You are confused. The Law of Moses was setup by Moses who had the Priesthood that encompassed the restricted Aaronic Priesthood the Levites were given. Obviously Moses (and Abraham) offered sacrifices to the Lord and this the Priesthood that the Nephites had. The interesting thing is that Jesus wasn't a Levite either and offered the ultimate sacrifice for us all. After that, the Lord in due course ended blood sacrifice.
just me wrote:Do you have a source in which I can read more about the "epi-Olmec culture" that is a promising match? Thanks.
The epi-Olmec were in the right time frame (300 BCE - 250 BCE) and in Central America. Do I have any proof that they are the Nephites civilization? No. It is just interesting that they disappeared in the right period.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
just me wrote:Do you have a source in which I can read more about the "epi-Olmec culture" that is a promising match? Thanks.
The epi-Olmec were in the right time frame (300 BCE - 250 BCE) and in Central America. Do I have any proof that they are the Nephites civilization? No. It is just interesting that they disappeared in the right period.
See, I'm not finding that. Can you point me somewhere? I'm reading what I can find which is not much.
Tobin, this is what I find. Can you tell me what you think "fits" with the descriptions in the Book of Mormon? Or is ti just the timeframe you like?
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just me wrote:See, I'm not finding that. Can you point me somewhere? I'm reading what I can find which is not much.
Ok, type in the URL "http://www.google.com" - type in the keyword 'epi-olmec culture'. Wow - 10 pages+ of results. Here is the first one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epi-Olmec_culture
The Epi-Olmec culture was a cultural area in the central region of the present-day Mexican state of Veracruz, concentrated in the Papaloapan River basin, a culture that existed during the Late Formative period, from roughly 300 BCE to roughly 250 CE.[1] Epi-Olmec was a successor culture to the Olmec, hence the prefix "epi-" or "post-". Although Epi-Olmec did not attain the far-reaching achievements of that earlier culture, it did realize, with its sophisticated calendrics and writing system, a level of cultural complexity unknown to the Olmecs.[2]
You can't be serious that you couldn't find that.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
You always seem to be posting while I am updating my post...
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~