Russel M. Nelson comments on big bang theory and evolution

[_gdemetz]

Evolution brings up more questions than it answers! Also, it does not take into account the spirit of man within him. There have been so many personal accounts of out of body experiences. I know, there have been so many "educated" ones who have tried to establish that these happenings were all a product of the mind, but this is ridiculous to those who have actually experienced them!

[_Drifting]

His hand guided it, and maintains it. We know that the first chapters of Genesis are not literal history, but they mean a great deal. So sad that LDS do not understand it.

Some LDS perhaps. But there are aspects of Genesis that must be historical else it doesn't work at all.

Now you're getting it...

[_bcspace]

Now you're getting it...

Light years ahead of you.

[Guest]

Did you guys really expect anything but Creationism to be taught in a religious forum? I don't care if you were listening to a Catholic, Protestant, or Mormon sermon, the Creation would be taught as truth.

Ah - creationists- ya just gotta love 'em. Came across some examples of a creationist's worst nightmare a few days ago. This fossil of a fish in limestone (bottom image) is in a bed that is rich with sea life including thousands of shells, fish and small invertebrates (a large shell fossil can be seen lower left on the rock face in the main photo).

This bed is located about 50 miles from the coast at around 6000 feet in elevation and is pretty hard for a creationist to explain, since the village shown in the top image (which is there because of a mountain spring) has been in existence in some form for a couple of thousand years.

[_Drifting]

Did you guys really expect anything but Creationism to be taught in a religious forum? I don't care if you were listening to a Catholic, Protestant, or Mormon sermon, the Creation would be taught as truth.

Ah - creationists- ya just gotta love 'em. Came across some examples of a creationist's worst nightmare a few days ago. This fossil of a fish in limestone (lower right) is in a bed that is rich with sea life including thousands of shells, fish and small invertebrates (a large shell fossil can be seen lower left on the rock face in the main photo).

This bed is located about 50 miles from the coast at around 6000 feet in elevation and is pretty hard for a creationist to explain, since the village shown just above the fish fossil insert (which is there because of a spring oasis) has been in existence in some form for a couple of thousand years.

Jeffrey 'I am not a dodo' Holland has debunked you DrW by explaining that the continents all shifted after the global flood of circa 2,300 bc to allow the waters recede. Of course he didn't have any demonstrable data but he does have faith and he's read a few books and went to a good school...

[_DrW]

Jeffrey 'I am not a dodo' Holland has debunked you DrW by explaining that the continents all shifted after the global flood of circa 2,300 bc to allow the waters recede. Of course he didn't have any demonstrable data but he does have faith and he's read a few books and went to a good school...

Jeffrey "I am not a dodo" Holland is indeed a dodo. In fact, I would rank him among the most blatant (if not the most blatant) of the science deniers in all of Mormonism.

I would love to see Holland take a hike up to this fossil bed, which is a huge table with hundreds of easily seen and identified fossils and plenty of room for an outdoor class.

After taking a look around and having it explained to him by local scientists that there is archaeological evidence of human habitation in these Omani hills going back thousands of years (there are burial sites in the surrounding hills have been shown to be more than 5,000 years old), I would love to see him explain, even to American Junior High students, how those fossils got there.

He would be laughed off the mountain by most 14 year olds.

[_MCB]

In the Mormon distortion of the Creation legend, the fossil record is explained by the Earth having been assembled from bits and pieces of destroyed planets. Of course, the Bible doesn't say that.

[_Drifting]

In the Mormon distortion of the Creation legend, the fossil record is explained by the Earth having been assembled from bits and pieces of destroyed planets. Of course, the Bible doesn't say that.

Nor does the Church any more...

[_Infymus]

Nelson just said this,
"Some people erroneously think that these marvelous physical attributes happened by chance or resulted from a big bang somewhere. Ask yourself, could an explosion in a printing shop produce a dictionary? The likelihood is most remote. But if so it could never heal it's own torn pages or reproduce it's own newer editions."

I'm waiting now for the scientific community to respond with "I don't know that we teach that." And "Those scientists were speaking as men."

[_Morley]

Looks like Jordan, Doc. Where is it?