why me wrote:I don't really care one way or another. I think the talks of this conference were good and on target. If one listens carefully one will get a good picture what it means to be LDS. And the messages were good. Now whether one follows the counsel..well...that is a different matter. But I see nothing wrong in the messages.
*snort*
I am just being honest with myself. But I also stand by what I said in the rest of the post.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Polygamy-Porter wrote: I am just doing a public service of calling BS where I see it and the Mormon conference center was a barn this weekend!
Now P-P, I think that it was more than that. I think that you were listening more intently than you letting us believe. I least I hope so. I would hate to see you just cherry pick away and quickly post the cherry picks as well thought out posts.
I think that you were rather impressed with the talks during conference.
Watching conference for low hanging anti fruit is like taking candy from a baby.
This conference was more like sitting along the parade route and the assclown throwing candy at the crowds! Many of the top 15 took turns being the assclown.
by the way, I went to my first catholic mass.
damned WEIRD.
I can see why they are having a tough time keeping members.
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Polygamy-Porter wrote: by the way, I went to my first catholic mass.
f*****g WEIRD.
I can see why they are having a tough time keeping members.
This is a good point. But on the catholic board, Mass is a beautiful and wonderful experience. I don't think that I believe them. It is always the same old same old. I had a boring feeling when I was a boy attending mass.
Much depends on the priest's homily. And yea, the mass can seem weird to people who have never been catholic but for catholics the rituals have some importance. Did you give anything for the collection basket?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Then why are they revered and remunerated for being 'just like everyone else'?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Then why are they revered and remunerated for being 'just like everyone else'?
Because of their calling. Joseph Smith often told the members that he was not perfect and yet, members in the beginning were doing just that--judging him. They had an impression of a prophet as someone who never got angry or said a harsh word etc. if you listen to some of the messages in the talks, it was this...we all need polishing.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:Because of their calling. Joseph Smith often told the members that he was not perfect and yet, members in the beginning were doing just that--judging him. They had an impression of a prophet as someone who never got angry or said a harsh word etc. if you listen to some of the messages in the talks, it was this...we all need polishing.
I don't think people expect perfection from the Church's Leaders. They do, however, expect honesty and substance; for their words and stories to stack up.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
It is quite telling that they have to dig all the way back to a story about some anonymous scholar from 60 years ago who supposedly thought "and it came to pass" proved the Book of Mormon was genuine. The way these apologists talk, the evidence is piling up in support of the Book of Mormon. Has any non-mormon scholar since the unnamed scholar from 60 years ago found anything convincing in the Book of Mormon?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
DarkHelmet wrote:It is quite telling that they have to dig all the way back to a story about some anonymous scholar from 60 years ago who supposedly thought "and it came to pass" proved the Book of Mormon was genuine. The way these apologists talk, the evidence is piling up in support of the Book of Mormon. Has any non-mormon scholar since the unnamed scholar from 60 years ago found anything convincing in the Book of Mormon?
Nope, just non-scholarly Mormons.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Drifting wrote: I don't think people expect perfection from the Church's Leaders. They do, however, expect honesty and substance; for their words and stories to stack up.
I think that this GC had honesty and substance in it. But I don't expect perfection from any GA who are giving talks during GC. They are first of all just human beings. I tend to make allowances. As was said at GC, judge not.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Drifting wrote: I don't think people expect perfection from the Church's Leaders. They do, however, expect honesty and substance; for their words and stories to stack up.
I think that this GC had honesty and substance in it. But I don't expect perfection from any GA who are giving talks during GC. They are first of all just human beings. I tend to make allowances. As was said at GC, judge not.
You only seem to apply that to apologists and faithful Mormons.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
