Holland declares Book of Abraham was TRANSLATED

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It is difficult to believe anything Holland says as he is a proven liar.

Hyrum's Book of Mormon...

Romney and the temple death oaths...
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Darth J wrote:
bcspace wrote:Though I also can accept certain variations on what "translation" can mean.


Oh, of course! The City of Enoch was "translated," and so was Moses! So he just means that the golden plates were taken up to heaven!


And how does one translate German into Spanish? Can an ignorant prophet do that, with a little help from God? Perhaps. :wink:

Holland said that the Book of Abraham was translated but doesn't know how it was done. Well, it's simple. You take Egyptian and translate it into English. But in order to do that you have to understand the writings of both languages. It's damn obvious that Joe Smith only knew one and the other was fabrications in his own mind. Holland-boy doesn't know a damn thing about it and he's supposed to be educated. Good grief. He's a dodo and a liar. A damn ugly one too. :evil:

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Drifting wrote:It is difficult to believe anything Holland says as he is a proven liar.

Hyrum's Book of Mormon...

Romney and the temple death oaths...

And he has a long history as a liar. It goes back to before he was an Apostle. You would think that his associates would try to reign him in a bit.

Why in the world did the LDS Church but forth Holland as the one to talk with the representative from BBC anyway?
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DrW wrote:
Drifting wrote:It is difficult to believe anything Holland says as he is a proven liar.

Hyrum's Book of Mormon...

Romney and the temple death oaths...

And he has a long history as a liar. It goes back to before he was an Apostle. You would think that his associates would try to reign him in a bit.

Why in the world did the LDS Church but forth Holland as the one to talk with the representative from BBC anyway?


Because the other fourteen are slightly smarter...
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Drifting wrote:Because the other fourteen are slightly smarter...


:lol:

Or because he drew the short straw.
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Translated, eh? I wonder what the translation is for this interesting document?

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Buffalo wrote:Translated, eh? I wonder what the translation is for this interesting document?

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The translations offered by Joseph Smith in the scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are utterly wrong and totally unEgyptian. Poor Joseph Smith. He didn't know the Egyptian language and all of his spiritual gifts let him down. His presentation was a total disaster and makes the church look real bad. The church leaders don't like to talk about Facsimile No. 3 because they don't have a testimony of it and they know just how bad it makes the church look. So, they don't talk about it.

It's positive proof that Mormon revelation is a joke and a lie. I defy all Mormons to refute this. They can't. If they try, I'll roast them a new one. Bring on John Gee. Bring on all of BYU. I'll kick their sorry asses with one hand tied behind my back. Then, I'll send out notices to Egytologists worldwide and let them sting the hell out of those lying dogs in front of the 15 pussy-ass apostles and news channels 4,5,8. The world needs to know that Mormon prophets are a joke and can't divine or defend their revelations either. Mormon prophets are a laugh!! :lol:

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I'm surprised Holland wasn't better prepared to deal with the questions he was asked. Honestly, Joseph Smith didn't know Egyptian nor could he read and translate it. Holland and company should just acknowledge that. If the Book of Abraham is true, it must be an origin story and could not possibly have come from translating any Egyptian papyrus.
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Tobin wrote:I'm surprised Holland wasn't better prepared to deal with the questions he was asked. Honestly, Joseph Smith didn't know Egyptian nor could he read and translate it. Holland and company should just acknowledge that. If the Book of Abraham is true, it must be an origin story and could not possibly have come from translating any Egyptian papyrus.

No no no, he did answer the question.

Listen to this beginning of Holland's string of lies.

"All I'm saying, all I'm saaa, all I'm saying, is that what got translated, got translated into the word of god.."

Sounds a bit like missing papyrus theory....
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