Stormy Waters wrote:Nelson just said this, "Some people erroneously think that these marvelous physical attributes happened by chance or resulted from a big bang somewhere. Ask yourself, could an explosion in a printing shop produce a dictionary? The likelihood is most remote. But if so it could never heal it's own torn pages or reproduce it's own newer editions."
You can't produce a dictionary by blowing up a printing shop anymore than you can find the name Shulem written in the writing of Facsismile No. 3 as Joe Smith claimed by his Mormon revelation. The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 have no bearing or connection with the document it describes and to have faith in such is erroneous thinking. But that's what Mormons do. They place their faith in things that aren't and never could be. They are like a drugged people and their General Authorities keep dosing them with all kinds of poison.
It is a small village known as Al Ain (not to be confused with the city of Al Ain in the UAE) in an area known as Jabal Akhdar (roughly translates to green mountain) in the highlands of Oman about 260 km from the border with the UAE. (Roughly 23 04 N by 057 38 E.)
As you enter this area there is a Police / Army checkpoint. Any vehicle not having 4 WD is not allowed to proceed. After the checkpoint the road climbs rapidly to over 6000 feet.
The village claim to fame is rose water. Most of the greenery you see are rose bushes with extremely fragrant blossoms. The place just smells wonderful. The whole thing is fed from two small springs that flow out of the mountain year round.
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David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW wrote:It is a small village known as Al Ain (not to be confused with the city of Al Ain in Saudi Arabia) in an area known as Jabal Akhdar (roughly translates to green mountain) in the highlands of Oman about 260 km from the border with the UAE. (Roughly 23 04 N by 057 38 E.)
As you enter this area there is a Police / Army checkpoint. Any vehicle not having 4 WD is not allowed to proceed. After the checkpoint the road climbs rapidly to over 6000 feet.
The village claim to fame is rose water. Most of the greenery you see are rose bushes with extremely fragrant blossoms. The place just smells wonderful. The whole thing is fed from two small springs that flow out of the mountain year round.
"In his encyclical Humani Generis (1950), my predecessor Pius XII has already affirmed that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine of the faith regarding man and his vocation, provided that we do not lose sight of certain fixed points.... Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies—which was neither planned nor sought—constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory."
It's worth reading, if for no other reason than to contrast the Pope's serious treatment of the issue with Nelson's nincompoopery yesterday.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Teilhard de Chardain wrote an excellent synthesis of evolution and Catholicism based on a positive view of Revelation. He got in trouble for it, but it is accepted now, as the J-PII encyclical illustrates.
I took a course on him.
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Huckelberry said: I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
As an outsider, the Apostles' talks have always struck me as similar to what you can get from having conversations with your slightly crazy uncle who listens to too much religious right radio. The odd thing about this dynamic is LDS are conditioned to think these are great fonts of wisdom and often treat them accordingly. It's, again, as if that slightly crazy uncle who listens to too much religious right radio all of a sudden acquired a few million followers for no reason in particular. Not everything said will be dumb - occasionally it will veer into genuinely insightful - but you get an awful lot of stupid, factually incorrect ideas and platitudes to come along for the ride.
It's moments like this where that shines through. The explosion in a printshop analogy is a very tired creationist canard. He might as well asked if people evolved from monkeys, how come there still are monkeys?! It'd be easy to chuckle at this borrowing of fundamentalist protestants' dregs, if not for the background knowledge that there is a sizable audience treating all of this very seriously.
