gdemetz wrote:You claim that is the case, then post a quote from Brigham Young to support that.
For once I whole-heartily agree with what DarthJ just said. He does not need to find a Brigham Young quote because LDS standard works declare the same thing. It is very obvious once you read them with a correct chronology. I never got to that point in my second session of expounding the end from the beginning. Nobody seemed interested enough for me to drag out all the dead cats from the bag of foolish adolescent Mormon unthunk through teachings like so many courts jesters juggling notions every which way that they might appear to slightly understand what Joseph Smith may have said....perhaps.
The scripture must establish doctrine and Brigham must bow to it. If they teach about it then that is it. We never needed Brigham Young to enlighten us about exaltation and the how that rolls. It is plain as day when you take the Holy Ghost as your guide and read by that power of understanding. To wit:
God made man in his own image and likeness. This was both God the Father and Jesus making man thus. Read it Elder Rigdon! Okay, so both the man and the woman were made together at the same moment........now.....when exactly were these two ever married or given in marriage on to another?.......hmm???? never! But they were commanded to multiply and replenish so um, they musta been already married........RIGHT? Of course. Then when the Lord made them in his likeness and in his image it MUST have been their resurrection unto exaltation that was happening there. Because they were already married. That means that they were beings from whatever world they lived upon when they were married and where they proved faithful and gained their exaltation.........NEXT.......These two obey the command to multiply and finish all the hosts thereof. See it in Genesis chapter two
and see that you mark it Elder Rigdon!
Now take a break and breathe easy a second or two while your mind expands and your heart opens wide as eternity.......wait for it......now. All things were created in heaven before they were naturally upon the earth. All men. By whom in this specific instance? By Adam and Eve......whom......(are you ready?) our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ commanded to multiply and replenish. This is the correct chronology of all creation scripture.
THEN
After fathering all the spirits that were prepared to go down to earth ADAM was formed out of the dust of the earth and into that clay the Lord breathed his (Adam'
s) spirit that he became a living soul.......Adam was a resurrected and glorified being so how could the Lord put that being by the word of his power (breathed) command that he take a tabernacle of clay. IT IS VERY LITERAL that is the mystery solved. A glorified and resurrected man can hie to Kolob at will. How do you propose God keeps such a being tethered to the Garden of Eden to fulfill God's purposes in being there if he can jump off and hie where ever he might yearn to go?
Two things. He must take away Adam's memory so that he does not remember what he could do and anything about any other possibility. And second he must hamper him and tie him to this planet. How? By taking the coarse elements (clay) and mixing them with the exalted and glorified body of the resurrected unto exaltation that Adam was. I do not suspect that this process was in the least pleasant as God needed to put Adam to sleep while the operation was conducted.
Still, for Eve's benefit elements already assimilated by Adam were then taken from his side to tether Eve here and have the same retarding effect. Just not so rough on Eve and that was very polite and gentlemanly of Adam and God to do so. I know that is says God put Adams spirit into the dust but we are spirit from age to age as Joseph Smith taught. So in resurrection we are spirit beings. As God is a spirit.
I have added nothing to scripture in expounding it thusly. I have only opened up your eyes that you might begin to see clearly. Now what was the true situation in the Garden of Eden. Eve needed her power of conception multiplied and replenished in her. Why? Because she had exhausted them in the previous world having finished all the hosts (conceptions) possible. that is the way it is with women. They only have so many conceptions possible and then they are done. Men can continue to produce sperm but the woman has a closed and finite set of conceptions and that's it.
Makes great sense then that Eve was more motivated to partake of the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. It was her instinct to do so. Please take pains to note that Adam and Eve were never commanded to have children in the Garden of Eden.........wait for it........wait for it.......there!
Now you are enlightened. How long shall it remain in you? Who can tell?
And here is some more:
After they left the Garden the gospel of Jesus Christ was administered to Adam according to the Book of Moses. Therefore, exalted beings are made subject to the Very Eternal Father after they fall into the earth that they helped to make and where they have physical children to begin the world where all their spirit children will come to get physical bodies. This is why Adam rules over this world subject to Christ who is Very God.
Christ was born of a virgin. Not by Adam. That is stupid. Adam died and could only have been resurrected again and therefore could have only had spirit body seed in him that could not conceive a physical child anyways. Christ was cloned of the Father and placed in the virgin womb of Mary by the power of the Holy Ghost. This is why Christ could rightly say that when you had seen him you had seen the Father.
The seed for that clone was the first ovulation of Eve after her seed was multiplied unto her. for what does the scripture say about the seed of the woman...Eve? That he shall crush (or bruise) the serpents head. That is Christ.