Mariner's post over on MADBoard (for those who do not allow themselves to visit that place) is here: __________________________
Come on folks.
First of all, the "article" is marked as a press release. It is on PRWeb, which charged me an arm and a leg for releasing my "news" last time I used them. (Check out <www.prweb.com>).
Press releases are not exactly considered objective sources of information. They are, in fact, a not-so-subtle form of paid advertisement.
Secondly, the title of the article is: Mormon Apologists Strive for Objectivity Says President of FAIR. The article goes on to admit that FAIR does not actually achieve objectivity (see below).
At least Bro. Gordon is honest enough to admit that FAIR is biased in his following statement quoted in the article.
"I will admit we have a bias," Gordon said, explaining that FAIR members believe that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is really the ancient Church of Jesus Christ restored in the latter days through Joseph Smith. However, he further explained that in defending the Church, FAIR members strive for an objective approach to the evidence and answers based in the best scholarship available.
So, all that this "newspaper article" really demonstrates is that the LDS Church can afford the best press money can buy. ________________________________
My personal take is that the whole thread is hilarious. The OP gushes as if this "article" were an op-ed piece from a well know liberal critic. Aside from Mariner, the posters there have apparently not tumbled to the fact that this was a paid press release by FAIR. I love it.
Now - back on my head.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
It must be embarrassing for Gordon to have to pay for self promotion because the Church is rapidly distancing itself from his organizations.
Soon FAIR will achieve the same standing within LDS Mormonism that the FLDS currently enjoys...
"No Sir, they are nothing to do with us..."
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
The anti-mormon will claim that this debunks the Church and is "good" evidence against it's claims. Problem is, that this is a false anti-mormon narrative and abuse of the facts. There is little to no evidence that the found fragments are actually pieces of "the" scroll Joseph said he took the Book of Abraham from. We know that Joseph had many scrolls, we know he gave away most, we know that Facsimiles are plentiful, etc. Nothing at all really proves it's "the" claimed Book of Abraham. Thus, in that case, the LDS Scholar will say we don't have enough information yet to explain the data, and thus we will continue to investigate. Not only that, but then you ad the many internal and external evidences that have been discovered proving many of Joseph's Facsimile's translations, materials related to the Book of Abraham itself, etc. all of which adds to the validity of the Book of Abraham, contrary to the anti-mormon claim of "good" evidence against the Church.
Crap! Its only $369 per press release for full major industry premium coverage.And only 199 for their most popular.
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The Apocalrock is: If you would like to add a quote, critique, or simply praise that I might actually use in my new press releaseplease see my dedicated thread I am about to put up. See my sig for source material. And thanks for the heads up there DrW. The local press release service is only $25 per release and twice I got nothing from it.
Come on folks......make me famous. How often do you get a chance to change the world?
FAIR might want to change their name: Foundation for Apologetics Is Ludicrous. Although they might have to pay extra for the domain faillds.com.
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Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
