Thanks so much for sharing that. All I can say is that I believe I have felt a lot of those feelings, and I know something of how hard it can be. After all of these years, I have not fully healed from it all. I hoped that apologists would have answers for me. What I got was bullying. Worse, they really did not have answers for my legitimate concerns, or even admit that I had legitimate concerns.
Hang in there.
Here is a new anthem for the Mormon Apologists:
it's 8 am, this hell i'm in seems i've crossed a line again for being nothing more than who i am so break my bones and throw your stones we all know that life ain't fair but there's more of us we're everywhere
we don't have to take this back against the wall we don't have to take this we can end it all
all you'll ever be is a faded memory of a bully make another joke while they hang another rope so lonely push them to the dirt till the words don't hurt can you hear me no one's gonna cry on the very day you die you're a bully
think it through you can't undo whenever i see black and blue i feel the past, i share the bruise with everyone who's come and gone my head is clear my voice is strong, now i'm right here to right the wrong
bcspace wrote:There must be an "I left the Church" MAD Lib floating around somewhere that doubting and ex Mormons copy from.
How to make bcspace disappear?
Ask him a question.
Bc space has found the ultimate strategy. When confronted with an indefensible position, he simply declares victory and moves on. It works pretty well for him.
I like bc. He is never rude or obnoxious (unlike some other recent posters). The poor guy is stuck trying to defend an untenable position. I'm guessing his strategy is the very best that he can do.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
You don't like YOUR rudeness and obnoxiousness being shown to you in the mirror???
Further, you are in error as usual. My words are judging actual wrong, YOUR behaviors and words. I'm not the one who is engaging in such behavior. A cop is not being violent for having to use violence against a violent person. He's using force. Force is not violence nor bad. A bad use of force is violence.
If those of you here were acting morally and honorably, I wouldn't have a negative thing to say about it or about YOU.
Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
Everything I say is the absolute truth. I give no opinion. I say nothing unless I've fully and from all sides studied the issue, getting at the actual and whole truth.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
ldsfaqs wrote:I also don't shy away from bullies, bigots, and liars, people who do harm and misrepresent others.
Cool, so explain the creation of the spirits of "pre-Adamites."
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Going to MDD was an unwise idea in terms of preserving a status quo faith. You needed to stay in a hermetically sealed environment for that. Just like on this board, you will run into quarrelsome characters, and information regarding the Church you most likely never heard before.
Seeing your fellow Church members bare their fangs can be most unsettling. I suppose that is just part of human existence, at least from the side of our canine ancestors (the ones not descended from Cain, like the rest of us).
You don't like YOUR rudeness and obnoxiousness being shown to you in the mirror???
Further, you are in error as usual. My words are judging actual wrong, YOUR behaviors and words. I'm not the one who is engaging in such behavior. A cop is not being violent for having to use violence against a violent person. He's using force. Force is not violence nor bad. A bad use of force is violence.
If those of you here were acting morally and honorably, I wouldn't have a negative thing to say about it or about YOU.
Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.
You are quite correct, ldsfaqs. I was speaking of you. Please give examples of when I was being rude.
You came here in your latest incarnation looking for a fight and calling everyone who disagreed with you a "liar".
You're a silly person. I doubt that you are making much headway promoting your point of view. You should read the posts on the board for a while and rethink.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
You are quite correct, ldsfaqs. I was speaking of you. Please give examples of when I was being rude.