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The Church IS literally True.....

Zee, don't blame the Church for your "current" fallibility.
Have some charity, put away your judgments of religion, realizing that seeking to destroy the good things of the world will not bring good, and will not bring you to understanding what is really true.

When you do that, you will find peace. Then maybe one day, if you still have an interest in truth, a better way to be, then maybe you'll seek after the actual truth. Whatever you currently believe, you still know in a part of you that there IS something different about the Church. It's because it IS literally true, and there ARE answers to all that you see as problems.

I've been there Zee..... I'm sharing with you the path to further enlightenment. Even if you never come back to religion or the Church. Only seeking after the good, right and true without judging it, will you find peace.
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zeezrom wrote:Will you be happy if I just go along with it all? Will my life find peace then?


Take a deep breath and quite worrying. Peace and happiness are already there, just write your story around them.
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bcspace wrote:I would agree that the LDS Church, your only hope for salvation, is a bit like root beer. Bubbly, cloying, happy, and......insidious.
My bold.


in·sid·i·ous /inˈsidēəs/

Adjective:
1. Proceeding in a gradual, subtle way, but with harmful effects: "the insidious effects of stress".
2. Treacherous; crafty: "an insidious alliance".

Synonyms:
sly - treacherous - guileful - crafty - perfidious
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Keep drinking the kool-aide bc. Slug it down.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt, it is a river of kool-aide circulating through bc's veins.


No, it's root beer.

I would agree that the LDS Church, your only hope for salvation, is a bit like root beer. Bubbly, cloying, happy, and......insidious.
My bold.

in·sid·i·ous /inˈsidēəs/

Adjective:
1. Proceeding in a gradual, subtle way, but with harmful effects: "the insidious effects of stress".
2. Treacherous; crafty: "an insidious alliance".

Synonyms:
sly - treacherous - guileful - crafty - perfidious


And it it remains your only hope of salvation and you pray for it's success. Being insidious is merely your perspective.
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bcspace wrote:
I would agree that the LDS Church, your only hope for salvation, is a bit like root beer. Bubbly, cloying, happy, and......insidious.

Morley wrote:in·sid·i·ous /inˈsidēəs/

Adjective:
1. Proceeding in a gradual, subtle way, but with harmful effects: "the insidious effects of stress".
2. Treacherous; crafty: "an insidious alliance".

Synonyms:
sly - treacherous - guileful - crafty - perfidious


And it it remains your only hope of salvation and you pray for it's success. Being insidious is merely your perspective.


Nope. "Insidious" was your perspective. I merely listed the standard definition.
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moksha wrote:Peace and happiness are already there, just write your story around them.

Wise words, Penguin-san.
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moksha wrote:
Take a deep breath and quite worrying. Peace and happiness are already there, just write your story around them.


I think that there is more to the story than zee is letting on. If these are his parents, one can deal with that quite easily, the same with relatives. Many people have relatives that show concern when no concern is asked for. But with zee, there seems to be a hidden issue in his story and at times I think that he is his own worst enemy if his posts are anything to go by. If he talks what he writes here, well, I see more than prying family. No sense to upset the apple cart more than what is necessary.
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zeezrom wrote:The artifacts of Mormonism are embedded in my person. There is no way to erase them.

Trying to let it all go must cause problems if your loved ones don't share in your new opinions and convictions. My search for the sacred is now hidden from ridicule while I watch people around me proclaim their beliefs with gusto.

I need a God to turn to. There isn't anyone else so what can a person do?

Will you be happy if I just go along with it all? Will my life find peace then?

God, I hate this institution sometimes. Why did it ever have to start, Joseph? Why?

God, help me stop hating.

You've been walking through life with Mormon crutches and Mormon braces on your legs. Shucking those off, you feel wobbly and insecure at first, but keep walking and your legs will gain the strength that Mormonism kept them from developing. It's like the scene in the early part of Forrest Gump; keep walking.

One of the realities, one of the strengths that will build in your legs, is realizing you'll never walk alone. Not always evident, there are days when it seems its you against the world, and the 'cold, harsh realities', but you have an abundance of friends. Your wife, your children, your co-workers, your hottubbers, other MDB posters, etc.

The sacred is you, others and your relationships with each other. Let others help you when you need a hand, let them know, give them that opportunity. It is as important--as sacred--as when you provide someone else a hand.
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Thank you everyone for replying and supporting.

The church teaches members a lot of things. One thing they skip over is how to navigate differing religious opinions within a marriage.
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zeezrom wrote:Thank you everyone for replying and supporting.

The church teaches members a lot of things. One thing they skip over is how to navigate differing religious opinions within a marriage.


This whole topic is a little too close to my own history for me to be able to approach it. Just know that my heart truly goes out to you, Zee.
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