City Creek, the Great and Spacious

[_ldsfaqs]

Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.

The fact that you people can't understand these kinds of things is sad.
You mock the Church for it's wealth and success, yet it's the Church itself that creates that wealth and success in it's people, etc.

You would have the Church be like poor Communist and Socialist country's in which the gap between the rich and poor is much greater, there is no country wealth, there is much more poor, few middle class, on and on.

See, that's what your liberal ideology's, the perverted ideology that judges the Church creates.
There isn't a single example of your ideology that works in the world. You think wealth is a finite PIE, when it's not. The Church, Capitalism, and Freedom should exist in every country in the world. If it did, there would be few poor, there would be a quality of life, etc.

You want the Church to "spend more" for the poor..... You would have it spend till it had nothing and thus not even exist as a Church any more. You are no different than cry cry Protestants against the Mother Church.

[_Drifting]

Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.

The fact that you people can't understand these kinds of things is sad.
You mock the Church for it's wealth and success, yet it's the Church itself that creates that wealth and success in it's people, etc.

You would have the Church be like poor Communist and Socialist country's in which the gap between the rich and poor is much greater, there is no country wealth, there is much more poor, few middle class, on and on.

See, that's what your liberal ideology's, the perverted ideology that judges the Church creates.
There isn't a single example of your ideology that works in the world. You think wealth is a finite PIE, when it's not. The Church, Capitalism, and Freedom should exist in every country in the world. If it did, there would be few poor, there would be a quality of life, etc.

You want the Church to "spend more" for the poor..... You would have it spend till it had nothing and thus not even exist as a Church any more. You are no different than cry cry Protestants against the Mother Church.

Can you point to an example of something Christ did or said that would indicate that City Creek is what He would have done, rather than give the entire wealth of the Church to helping the poor and the needy?

[_Buffalo]

Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.

The fact that you people can't understand these kinds of things is sad.
You mock the Church for it's wealth and success, yet it's the Church itself that creates that wealth and success in it's people, etc.

You would have the Church be like poor Communist and Socialist country's in which the gap between the rich and poor is much greater, there is no country wealth, there is much more poor, few middle class, on and on.

See, that's what your liberal ideology's, the perverted ideology that judges the Church creates.
There isn't a single example of your ideology that works in the world. You think wealth is a finite PIE, when it's not. The Church, Capitalism, and Freedom should exist in every country in the world. If it did, there would be few poor, there would be a quality of life, etc.

You want the Church to "spend more" for the poor..... You would have it spend till it had nothing and thus not even exist as a Church any more. You are no different than cry cry Protestants against the Mother Church.

Let's see, help bored LDS teens get jobs at Cinnabon, or relieve starvation in the third world? What to do, what to do.

[_ldsfaqs]

Can you point to an example of something Christ did or said that would indicate that City Creek is what He would have done, rather than give the entire wealth of the Church to helping the poor and the needy?

Sure, he created an authoritative and official organization. The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were not created "later" you know. They were two of some of the most major Churches Christ and his Apostles established.

You like other religious anti-mormons don't know the scriptures.

Christ's Church didn't just walk around poor and destitute....
Plus, how can you give money to the poor if you yourself are poor and destitute?

[_Drifting]

Can you point to an example of something Christ did or said that would indicate that City Creek is what He would have done, rather than give the entire wealth of the Church to helping the poor and the needy?

Sure, he created an authoritative and official organization. The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were not created "later" you know. They were two of some of the most major Churches Christ and his Apostles established.

You like other religious anti-mormons don't know the scriptures.

Christ's Church didn't just walk around poor and destitute....
Plus, how can you give money to the poor if you yourself are poor and destitute?

So no, you can't. Thought not.

[_ldsfaqs]

Let's see, help bored LDS teens get jobs at Cinnabon, or relieve starvation in the third world? What to do, what to do.

Those teens grow up to be successful in all kinds of ways, and as a result create wealth and give wealth to society, to those in need, etc.

Mormonism has never denied that it focuses more on "teaching a man to fish" and he lives for a lifetime, and benefits his family and society, than to simply give him a fish and he lives for a day, both him and society gaining little to nothing and being forever on the dole.

Of course, "individually" we are to share our increase with the poor. Most Mormons I've known have been as helpful as they can to many people and causes in and out of the Church.

The scriptures by the way specifically state that it's "individuals" that are to help the poor.
The Churches primary function is different. It's primary function is to teach a man to fish.

[_Drifting]

Let's see, help bored LDS teens get jobs at Cinnabon, or relieve starvation in the third world? What to do, what to do.

Those teens grow up to be successful in all kinds of ways, and as a result create wealth and give wealth to society, to those in need, etc.

Mormonism has never denied that it focuses more on "teaching a man to fish" and he lives for a lifetime, and benefits his family and society, than to simply give him a fish and he lives for a day, both him and society gaining little to nothing and being forever on the dole.

Of course, "individually" we are to share our increase with the poor. Most Mormons I've known have been as helpful as they can to many people and causes in and out of the Church.

The scriptures by the way specifically state that it's "individuals" that are to help the poor.
The Churches primary function is different. It's primary function is to teach a man to fish.

Why does it need a high end (loss making) shopping centre to teach famine stricken Africans how to feed themselves?

[_ldsfaqs]

So no, you can't. Thought not.

Why don't you give me an example of Christ giving the "entire wealth of the Church" as you claim to the Poor.

Your premise is FALSE from the beginning.

Further, you lie, because I did give examples of how the Church was established, that it was an actual organization, etc., that it didn't simply give money to the poor. Sure, I didn't quote a bunch of scriptures, that's not what I do. I learn patterns and principles, not millions of details of things to regurgitate later. I have other talents and interests.

[_ldsfaqs]

Why does it need a high end (loss making) shopping centre to teach famine stricken Africans how to feed themselves?

Did I say that was it's function? No I didn't. Stop lying!
I specifically stated it's function, and I also quoted a FAIR Blog on the subject which further stated it's function.

[_Buffalo]

Let's see, help bored LDS teens get jobs at Cinnabon, or relieve starvation in the third world? What to do, what to do.

Those teens grow up to be successful in all kinds of ways, and as a result create wealth and give wealth to society, to those in need, etc.

Mormonism has never denied that it focuses more on "teaching a man to fish" and he lives for a lifetime, and benefits his family and society, than to simply give him a fish and he lives for a day, both him and society gaining little to nothing and being forever on the dole.

Of course, "individually" we are to share our increase with the poor. Most Mormons I've known have been as helpful as they can to many people and causes in and out of the Church.

The scriptures by the way specifically state that it's "individuals" that are to help the poor.
The Churches primary function is different. It's primary function is to teach a man to fish.

It's America. Those teens will be fine with or without the mall. I hope it was worth letting millions of kids starve to death. Enjoy your Quiznos.