City Creek, the Great and Spacious

[_Drifting]

Why does it need a high end (loss making) shopping centre to teach famine stricken Africans how to feed themselves?

Did I say that was it's function? No I didn't. Stop lying!
I specifically stated it's function, and I also quoted a FAIR Blog on the subject which further stated it's function.

Shame on you.
How many starving children could have lived if the Church had used the money spent on City Creek to feed, clothe and medicate them?
And you think Jesus would have made the same decision?
Disgraceful.

The Useni Family
Fales Useni looks after her two grandchildren Dickson and Chipunde. You can see their family is suffering from a shortage of food, poor clothing and poor housing. There are 1000s of families like Fales suffering from, poverty in Africa.
Will you sponsor a family by partnering with Hope Africa today?

£10 a month could pay for basic food to support a Fales' family.
£25 a month could pay for basic food to support a largerfamily.
£50 a month could pay for food, clothing and a mosquito net to prevent malaria for Fales and her grandsons.

http://www.hopeafrica.org.uk/sponsor-a-family.php

What impact could $5 billion make?

[_Buffalo]

Shame on you.
How many starving children could have lived if the Church had used the money spent on City Creek to feed, clothe and medicate them?
And you think Jesus would have made the same decision?
Disgraceful.

Mormon Jesus is a little different from that Jesus guy in the Bible.

[_ldsfaqs]

Shame on you.
How many starving children could have lived if the Church had used the money spent on City Creek to feed, clothe and medicate them?
And you think Jesus would have made the same decision?
Disgraceful.

What impact could $5 billion make?

Do you know what a "fallacy" is???

You could make the same argument for spending any money on anything with anyone or any group.

Further, you ask "what impact"? Without fixing the corruption, without changing peoples ideology's, just throwing money at a problem has little impact.

Further, you don't know the love of God. People like that child are in God's hands, are in fact special spirits of God, chosen to live a difficult and brief life. You can't throw money at something without first eliminating the evil that created the problem in the first place.

You do know that Mormons don't run those country's? You do know that the Church has to give that money to someone? You do know that the Church DOES do whatever it can to best maximize the help it gives, to assist people, to help them overcome. You do know that most of those country's are not FREE don't you, that the Church can't just waltz in there and give money????

Oh, you didn't know these things? Because your liberal mind can't think or study beyond the obvious, thus you LIE and degrade good people and religions of the world, to make yourselves feel superior over them. You anti-mormons are bullies.... and you wonder why I condemn you.

[_Drifting]

Further, you don't know the love of God. People like that child are in God's hands, are in fact special spirits of God, chosen to live a difficult and brief life.

This is one of the horriblest things I've ever seen posted.

[_ldsfaqs]

Further, you don't know the love of God. People like that child are in God's hands, are in fact special spirits of God, chosen to live a difficult and brief life.

This is one of the horriblest things I've ever seen posted.

You only believe that because you have no belief.....
I know that the "lest of these" are in God's hands, that they are loved.
I know that when our lives seem at our worst, God is carrying us.

You can call it "horrible" if you want, but it is love.
That doesn't mean of course that I don't as an individual do what I can to help another.
It only means, God's Will be done.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.

[_Drifting]

Further, you don't know the love of God. People like that child are in God's hands, are in fact special spirits of God, chosen to live a difficult and brief life.

You only believe that because you have no belief.....
I know that the "lest of these" are in God's hands, that they are loved.
I know that when our lives seem at our worst, God is carrying us.

You can call it "horrible" if you want, but it is love.
That doesn't mean of course that I don't as an individual do what I can to help another.
It only means, God's Will be done.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.

If that little child is in God's hands then God is doing a sh1t job.

I'm looking forward to God explaining the Billion Dollar Mall in the context of how it helps with world wide famine, poverty, homelessness, disease, infant mortality, child abuse, etc...

Atheists are much better off because God manages to meet their expectations.

[_Buffalo]

Further, you don't know the love of God. People like that child are in God's hands, are in fact special spirits of God, chosen to live a difficult and brief life.

This is one of the horriblest things I've ever seen posted.

+1

He let his kooky religion sap him of his humanity.

[_ldsfaqs]

My "humanity" is just fine..... In fact, it's much greater than yours.
You people seek to destroy good, while I seek to destroy your evil.

I know pain, I know suffering, I know the evil men do to men.
I however know exactly what you're doing.
You're doing the exact thing liberal politicians do. "It's for the children, for the old people, for the women".
Oooo aahhh Conservatives if they don't pass this whatever legislation, they don't care about the children, the poor, the old, women, etc. etc.

Your arguments are strawmen. Do you know what a strawman is?
It's a false argument, idea, assumption that you build up and then attack.

In this case, your false assumption is that building the Mall is supposed to help the poor of Africa. And since it doesn't and in your mind it or the money should help the poor in Africa, that means the Church is "evil".
Yep, the Church is "Evil" for doing anything else OTHER than just giving money to the poor.
Yep, the Church should give money until it has none. It's not allowed to invest and grow money to help people. It should just spend all it has until it has nothing. Then it doesn't exist, and it can't help anyone in ANY way.

[_Buffalo]

My "humanity" is just fine..... In fact, it's much greater than yours.
You people seek to destroy good, while I seek to destroy your evil.

I know pain, I know suffering, I know the evil men do to men.
I however know exactly what you're doing.
You're doing the exact thing liberal politicians do. "It's for the children, for the old people, for the women".
Oooo aahhh Conservatives if they don't pass this whatever legislation, they don't care about the children, the poor, the old, women, etc. etc.

Your arguments are strawmen. Do you know what a strawman is?
It's a false argument, idea, assumption that you build up and then attack.

In this case, your false assumption is that building the Mall is supposed to help the poor of Africa. And since it doesn't and in your mind it or the money should help the poor in Africa, that means the Church is "evil".
Yep, the Church is "Evil" for doing anything else OTHER than just giving money to the poor.
Yep, the Church should give money until it has none. It's not allowed to invest and grow money to help people. It should just spend all it has until it has nothing. Then it doesn't exist, and it can't help anyone in ANY way.

You think building malls is more important than helping starving kids. You think we shouldn't help them because God wants them to starve.

You've let your kooky religion rob you of your inborn sense of empathy. It's probably too late for you.


Even the otherwise lame Book of Mormon equates spending money on fine buildings as a way of despising the poor.

[_RockSlider]

ldsfaqs,

Seems pretty clear, to a Christian anyway.

17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.