City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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ldsfaqs wrote:Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.


This is pure unadulterated balderdash.

The Brethren need to wake up to the idea that the church is a worldwide church, not a Utah church, not a SLC church. And they need to spread the money around.

And yes... the poor, the widowed, the orphaned should be the main focus of the church.

This whole project is just shameful.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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ldsfaqs wrote:Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down,


lol. They have sealed the doom of downtown. All the rest of Down Town Salt Lake city will dwindle even worse now. Property values will plummet and the Church will probably buy up everything they can. They might buy Gateway just to tear it down to make a Druid park to make use of all those Hele Stones, Station Stones and Slaughter Stones scattered everywhere.

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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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ldsfaqs wrote:Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.


As long as every dollar that flows through City Creek is taxable by the secular state and federal governments, then I would say this application of the Church's money is a step in the right direction.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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The Dude wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:Nothing offensive nor indefessible about it.....

It was a perfectly reasonable action to help keep Salt Lake from being run down, to create jobs (thus helping people NOT be poor), and to bring people to downtown Salt Lake so the Church can continue to share it's message.


As long as every dollar that flows through City Creek is taxable by the secular state and federal governments, then I would say this application of the Church's money is a step in the right direction.



Actually, it's not taxable..

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/local ... s.Facebook

Which tells me Church monies is far more mingled than LDSLeaders have admitted to.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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TAK wrote:Which tells me Church monies is far more mingled than LDSLeaders have admitted to.


Sounds like they own it as much as they own a temple or chapel. Just another extension of power. Wow, I guess I won't be spending money there - too much like paying tithing.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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ludwigm wrote:The Not-So-Great Mall of China: Welcome to the world's largest (and loneliest) shopping centre
It was trumpeted as the world's largest retail mall, with shoppers able to browse through 1,500 stores, take a stroll along a mock Venetian canal or even have lunch in front of an 85ft replica of the Arc de Triomphe.
But the New South China Mall, which opened in 2005, stands empty with 99 per cent of its shops having remained unleased and attractions including a 553-metre indoor and outdoor roller coaster standing idle.

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Abandoned: The New South China Mall is the largest in the world, with space for 1,500 stores, but has less than 12 shops
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Eerie: Shop workers walk underneath a 550m rollercoaster in the deserted amusement centre
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Run down: The mall sign stands unlit and, right, an abandoned gondola on the mock Venetian canal
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... entre.html


That's insane. I've heard a few of these stories from China.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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Bond James Bond wrote:

That's insane. I've heard a few of these stories from China.

The prefecture-level city (Dongguan) has more than 10 million resident...
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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That false and deceitful mall know as the Gateway Center stole the crown jewels of the Crossroads Mall. Now the Church has reclaimed these rightful jewels with its one true mall. This sets the Universe back to unfolding as it should. Nordstrom's, Harmon's and Abercrombie & Fitch should be next to the Temple as foretold.
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Re: City Creek, the Great and Spacious

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TAK wrote:
The Dude wrote:As long as every dollar that flows through City Creek is taxable by the secular state and federal governments, then I would say this application of the Church's money is a step in the right direction.


Actually, it's not taxable..

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/local ... s.Facebook

Which tells me Church monies is far more mingled than LDSLeaders have admitted to.


BUZZ FALSE..... Predictable anti-mormon.

1. The Mall and everything related to it is fully taxable, which was his question.
2. Only the "master developer" is not FEDERALLY taxable, because it is a Non-Profit Corporation.
It still has to pay state and local taxes. There are Corporations, LLC's, DBA's, Non-Profit Corporations, etc. Each type of company has it's own tax structure Federally speaking.
3. Church monies are NOT "mingled" at all. The Corporate side of the Church, the For-Profit and other types of entities side is what developed the Mall. Church Funds, tithing etc. are entirely separate from this side of the Church.
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