Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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This question is important because the humanitarian example of Jesus is more palpable than the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth

Of course. But how that relates to salvation seems to be elusive on this baord.

--proving the existence of said supernatural forces is extremely problematic, as I’m sure you're aware.

I am.

In short, you seem to be saying that Mainstream Christianity condemns me to hell

Not in the least. The overriding principle of MCism is that God is Just, and that only God knows who is condemned and who isn't. That kind of judgementalism, thankfully, is not a big part of the conversation.

despite the fact that A) I acknowledge the humanitarian value of Christ's example,

Yes, that's good.

and B) I at least try to follow that example.

Wonderful! But that has nothing to do with salvation, as I've indicated in a previous post.

It seems to me that Mainstream Christianity teaches that a belief in supernatural phenomena is more important than personal righteousness.

For what? Salvation? It certainly does not. Personal righteousness is entirely separate. What Christianity teaches is that I am no more righteous than you are, and you no more than me. (the former certainly being true!!)

Rewards and punishment is an important part of Christianity. E.g., Heaven = eternal reward; Hell = eternal punishment.

Wrong. Christian rewards have to do with the administration of the 1000 year reign of Christ, and past that, the administration of heaven.

I’ll go with Buffalo’s response, here.

I'd rather have your response.

Wouldn't dream of it! :)

Great! I look forward to more.

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But I’m still not a Christian because I reject the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth, right?

The sticking point seems to be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

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But I’m still not a Christian because I reject the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth, right?

The sticking point seems to be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

No, that's not what I wrote. One can not be a Christian and reject the Divinity of Christ.

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

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The so-called "Divinity of Christ" being one of the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth.

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You seem to be tap dancing around the question of whether the fantastical accounts recorded in the Bible are actually true. Or, whether they’re examples of pious fraud.

Will you agree, in principal, that pious fraud is a phenomenon that occurs in all religions, Christianity included?

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The so-called "Divinity of Christ" being one of the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth.

Of course. I've stated as much.

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You seem to be tap dancing around the question of whether the fantastical accounts recorded in the Bible are actually true. Or, whether they’re examples of pious fraud.

Uh.... no I'm not. I've answered the questions you've given me.

I think they are true.

Will you agree, in principal, that pious fraud is a phenomenon that occurs in all religions, Christianity included?

It occurs in everything humans touch. Religions included.

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The so-called "Divinity of Christ" being one of the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth.

Of course. I've stated as much.

In which case the sticking point would be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

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Will you agree, in principal, that pious fraud is a phenomenon that occurs in all religions, Christianity included?

It occurs in everything humans touch. Religions included.

When you say "religions included" you mean Christianity too, right?

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But you're unwilling to agree, in principal, that pious fraud occurs specifically in Christianity, as well?

I thought we agreed that if you're going waste my time with ridiculous parsing then we'll just go our different ways.

I don't know how you can make that accusation. I've stated exactly that.