On the MDD board, they are discussing SSM, and the possibility of it ever being accepted in the church. California Boy suggested that since there isn't really an official revelation on it, there could conceivably be a revelation allowing it sometime in the future. This is Calmoriah's response:
CaliforniaBoy wrote:Do you ever wonder since there has been no modern revelation from God on this issue
Calmoriah wrote:I don't think this is an assumption that we should be making. It is quite possible in my opinion that modern revelation has been given to the prophet and apostles on how they should address the issue and they are doing exactly that. Simply because something has not be announced to the general membership does not mean there has not been revelation on it.
So are these imagined revelations that have not been announced considered official doctrine? BC Space?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Calmoriah wrote:I don't think this is an assumption that we should be making. It is quite possible in my opinion that modern revelation has been given to the prophet and apostles on how they should address the issue and they are doing exactly that. Simply because something has not be announced to the general membership does not mean there has not been revelation on it.
Because the purpose of a prophet is to get revelations and then NOT tell them to people. I wish I had a mouthpiece/go-between that I could tell things to, so that he could keep it a secret from the people that he is supposed to relay messages to for me. The level of speculation on that board is astounding.
"A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows." - Samuel Clemens
The name of the "king" in Facsimile No. 3 of the Book of Abraham is Isis. Yes...that is her name.
Calmoriah wrote:I don't think this is an assumption that we should be making. It is quite possible in my opinion that modern revelation has been given to the prophet and apostles on how they should address the issue and they are doing exactly that. Simply because something has not be announced to the general membership does not mean there has not been revelation on it.
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That is absolute rubbish, not to mention false doctrine.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Calmoriah wrote:I don't think this is an assumption that we should be making. It is quite possible in my opinion that modern revelation has been given to the prophet and apostles on how they should address the issue and they are doing exactly that. Simply because something has not be announced to the general membership does not mean there has not been revelation on it.
That is absolute rubbish, not to mention false doctrine.
Agreed. Wow, I'm amazed someone could even believe some nonsense like that.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
harmony wrote:That is absolute rubbish, not to mention false doctrine.
Agreed. Wow, I'm amazed someone could even believe some nonsense like that.
We're still living with the initial ramifications of this sort of thing.
The missing revelation restoring the higher priesthood.
Joseph and Fanny... and the lateness of Sec 132.
The lack of revelation regarding blacks and the priesthood.
We have a history of this sort of leading the church astray from the highest levels. And it's pitifully clear why... calmoriah is not alone in her nondiscernment and misplaced trust of authority.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
harmony wrote:We're still living with the initial ramifications of this sort of thing. The missing revelation restoring the higher priesthood. Joseph and Fanny... and the lateness of Sec 132. The lack of revelation regarding blacks and the priesthood. We have a history of this sort of leading the church astray from the highest levels. And it's pitifully clear why... calmoriah is not alone in her nondiscernment and misplaced trust of authority.
I wish members would spend more time learning the history of the Church, studying true doctrines of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and forego all the urban legends and nonsense that I often hear spoken from the pulpit in Church. This is precisely the reason I rarely stay after the sacrament because some benighted soul will get up and start spouting garbage like this and I just have to storm out because I can't take it.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:I wish members would spend more time learning the history of the Church, studying true doctrines of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and forego all the urban legends and nonsense that I often hear spoken from the pulpit in Church. This is precisely the reason I rarely stay after the sacrament because some benighted soul will get up and start spouting garbage like this and I just have to storm out because I can't take it.
Yet according to Dan, it's the members' own fault that we are misinformed, clinging to foolishness and Paul H Dunn stories. That the church has never lied to us or hidden anything.
The nonsense that comes across my ward's pulpit is enough to gag a maggot... if the maggot had a brain. The physical agony attending church causes me is nothing compared to the mental agony of hearing things like... the church is true because just look at how many temples we have, and the millions of members. I'm sitting there thinking... have you ever seen the cathedrals of England? the Vatican? do you know how many Catholics there are? how many Muslims?
I may have seen you in the church parking lot...
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Simply because something has not be announced to the general membership does not mean there has not been revelation on it.
That is absolute rubbish, not to mention false doctrine.
Not at all. Jesus himself spoke only to his apostles on occasion; admonishing them to tell no man. Christianity is full of esoteric doctrines, such as the LDS temple rites etc.
bcspace wrote:Not at all. Jesus himself spoke only to his apostles on occasion; admonishing them to tell no man. Christianity is full of esoteric doctrines, such as the LDS temple rites etc.
Those are not doctrine. We've already had that discussion.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
I wish I had a mouthpiece/go-between that I could tell things to, so that he could keep it a secret from the people that he is supposed to relay messages to for me. The level of speculation on that board is astounding.