My Website.... Question about Design?

[_ldsfaqs]

Duh.... I've already been outed, so it's a moot point now....!

Lord you people are dumb!

[_just me]

Even if all the sites are unlinked anyone who does a quick google of "ldsfaqs" will come up with his posts here on the first page of results.

All those terms are tainted so it *is* a moot point.

[_schreech]

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
While the sites aren't operational yet, still working things out, and forming them, the Evergrow, Ex-Anti-Mormon, and WhatisRightandWrong websites ARE most certainly professional looking websites (once they are ready).

Anyway, if you think the above four themes are "terrible" and not professional, you're an idiot.
I don't design websites, but I know good looking and good functional websites for professional services.

Yes, its not like I have been building and marketing successful websites for 10 years now and keeping 2 different design companies busy with the work my software company brings them....I must have missed the part where I was clueless enough to come to a website called "Mormon discussions" to ask for advice about the cheesy templates I chose for my personal websites.

If by "professional" (not sure you actually understand what that word means) you mean "looks like just about every generic blog on the internet" then, hey, don't let that stop you from vomiting forth yet another set of bargain-template websites into the garbage bin of third-rate, home-business websites that clog the internet. Good luck with that!

[_moksha]

I really liked the wood background. On a personal note, I hope your diet goes well for some really buff after pictures on your fitness site. That would be truly inspiring. Have you tried water aerobics?

[_ldsfaqs]

Yes, its not like I have been building and marketing successful websites for 10 years now and keeping 2 different design companies busy with the work my software company brings them....I must have missed the part where I was clueless enough to come to a website called "Mormon discussions" to ask for advice about the cheesy templates I chose for my personal websites.

If by "professional" (not sure you actually understand what that word means) you mean "looks like just about every generic blog on the internet" then, hey, don't let that stop you from vomiting forth yet another set of bargain-template websites into the garbage bin of third-rate, home-business websites that clog the internet. Good luck with that!

I've been on the net and messing with and collecting Templates for years.
I know what does and does not look good and does and does not look professional, and the combination of both. And yes, a couple of them are supposed to be blogs. And they are some of the best looking and professional blogs/sites out there (the 4 I linked anyway).

So, you still stand by your statement that the 4 themes I linked are "ugly"?
If so, I still stand by your idiocy. You probably create crap and then think you're actually good.

Further, if your such the professional, why didn't you actually give me a professional evaluation, instead of simply degraded and slandered? If I ask such questions at web development sites, they will point out specifics, etc. I've even done it myself for others, telling them what is write and wrong about colors, formating, structure, etc. You've said NONE of this to me. You wrote a bunch, but didn't actually say anything.

All that tells me you're not a professional, or at least not a good one, ass one minute and professional the next if you actually have a client.

Tell you what, why don't you show us your company and designs, and let us judge?
After all, you're a professional and have a business, you should have nothing to hide.

[_just me]

Professionals get paid for their professional skills.

Also, sometimes you actually can get web space for free. Ask your internet provider. Many of them offer a certain amount of free space...they just don't tell you about it unless you ask.

[_ldsfaqs]

I really liked the wood background.

Thank you. I like that also. I'm glad someone after this huge long thread FINALLY said something constructive (other than the links issue) as to my question.

Is there anyone on this website that is capable of doing an actual analysis?
What do you like, don't like, would do different, why etc.???

On a personal note, I hope your diet goes well for some really buff after pictures on your fitness site. That would be truly inspiring. Have you tried water aerobics?

Ya, it's going to happen. I need to re-do the pics because I've been distracted, still not working, and I'm planning on moving to Provo/Orem, better chance of getting work, and my kids are there now. In the next 2 weeks I'll finally start working out again. Those pics were taken several months back when I thought my family was coming back to me, I was like a changed man. Ex calls me out of the blue, first time she'd ever even talked to me since leaving 2 years before, and she asks me to forgive her, did, and then three weeks later she just for no reason changed her mind, and pretends I don't exist.

Anyway, going to work out, prepare for a month, and then move the last day of May. At least I hope I can motivate myself before I go. Still depressed as heck.

Thank you for the encouragement. Dealing with a pool would spend too much time I'm not going to do, unless I had one convenient. I'll be doing my FullBodyFIT program, body weight exercises, dynamic and passive exercises and stretching, and Martial Arts. Although, I know a pool is the most ideal when someone is morbidly obese. But, my program is very low impact or as high impact as you want to make it (only when you do the sports activity side). The main program itself is very low impact.

I AM going to look good again, one way or another.

[_ldsfaqs]

Professionals get paid for their professional skills.

Actually, Professionals "gather" at various websites/forums and help each other out as well as newbies giving advise, answer questions, etc. Clients pay, not fellow web geeks.

Also, sometimes you actually can get web space for free. Ask your internet provider. Many of them offer a certain amount of free space...they just don't tell you about it unless you ask.

Yes, I know all about it, I'm an Internet/Web geek & Computer expert.
I pay a very low rate for all my websites, or as many as I want with all the features I need or want at HostGator without the hassle and the limitations of free services. But, I do have a FreeHostia account as a backup if I feel the need. But no need when Hostgator is so cheap.

Anyway, anyone else have any thoughts other than liking my background, I should remove my links, and ALL of my websites "suck"?

Maybe I should just ask on the webdeveloper forums. Don't know why I expected anything "productive" from anti-mormons and liberals. :( Two pages of nothing but CRAP....

[_schreech]

I've been on the net and messing with and collecting Templates for years.
I know what does and does not look good and does and does not look professional, and the combination of both. And yes, a couple of them are supposed to be blogs. And they are some of the best looking and professional blogs/sites out there (the 4 I linked anyway).

So, you still stand by your statement that the 4 themes I linked are "ugly"?
If so, I still stand by your idiocy. You probably create crap and then think you're actually good.

Further, if your such the professional, why didn't you actually give me a professional evaluation, instead of simply degraded and slandered? If I ask such questions at web development sites, they will point out specifics, etc. I've even done it myself for others, telling them what is write and wrong about colors, formating, structure, etc. You've said NONE of this to me. You wrote a bunch, but didn't actually say anything.

All that tells me you're not a professional, or at least not a good one, ass one minute and professional the next if you actually have a client.

Tell you what, why don't you show us your company and designs, and let us judge?
After all, you're a professional and have a business, you should have nothing to hide.

Was any of that supposed to make any sense?

1 - I never said they were ugly - apparently your reading comprehension is as good as your web design skills...

2 - I gave you my opinion, which is what you were looking for... I was trying, for one post, to ignore the fact that you are a homophobic, gravitationally-challenged, narrow-minded racist and actually give you a couple of pointers in an area I am actually very familiar with as you are obviously not particularly adept at web-design/marketing, you have no people skills and I was actually starting to feel sorry for you considering you seem to be somewhat mentally unstable...

3 - I can see why you have have been doing this for "years" and have yet to make any money doing it...

4 - Unlike you, I am not stupid enough to purposely and publicly link my professional life and my personal life.

5 - If you have applied for a job though any of the major job boards in the last 5 years, you have most likely been on one of our sites.

6 - I blame the anti-mormons, liberals and your ex-wife for your unsuccessful web ventures, it certainly has nothing to do with you...

[Anonymous]

I don't know if ldsfaqs will find this of use or not. But since we're talking graphic design and aesthetics, I thought I'd mention a few things...

Here's some great web design:

http://www.wimdelvoye.be/

http://showstudio.com/

But you don't need to have the money or design chops to make something gorgeous which maximizes form and function. I built a simple website using Indexhibit. As a web design blog describes it, "Indexhibit is a simple to implement and easy to modify web platform (much like Wordpress) that is available for free from Indexhibit.org. It is totally open-source. The only stipulation of using it is that the site say “Built With Indexhibit” with a link back to the project site. While the standard layout and Indexhibit menu system is easy to use, Indexhibit themes are few (and not in the spirit of the project!). With a tiny amount of work, Indexhibit is highly customizable and very flexible."

The idea is not to use ready made themes---which really do make one's site look unprofessional blog---but customize your site using a few very versatile formats 'built in' to the platform or even better, learn from other participants how to produce a myriad of effects. Everyone who uses Indexhibit is extremely helpful and very cool about sharing their coding and layouts. My website is super simple: I'll be revamping it into something more fresh soon, but I'm a pushover for the minimalist and spartan aesthetic which seems to typify Indexhibit design.

swissmiss, an indispensable design blog, featured a more quick n' easy alternative to Indexhibit called Stacey. I may try this out when I redesign my site. I'm a total coding know-nothing, but I didn't find the basic HTML for Indexhibit at all difficult once I got my feet wet: plus everyone on the forum talked me through my noob issues so nicely. Still, I may try something different this time.

Anywho, here's some examples of the different things people have done in Indexhibit:

http://www.yesinacircle.com/

http://www.stephaniecorda.com/

http://www.oliverandciaran.co.uk/

http://www.simonemassafra.it/

http://www.haynesriley.com/

http://www.designandother.com.au/

http://www.armellahaene.ch/

http://www.strong-winds.com/

Clean, simple design.

Most people use Indexhibit for art portfolios or for their own graphic design work, but I've also seen sites built on this platform for businesses as well.