Is homosexuality a choice?

[_Tobin]

Does this mean that you endorse gay marriage, Kevin?

Gay couples should be allowed to marry in the United States. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. But likewise polygamous triples should also be allowed to marry in the United States. I don't know how anyone can argue for the former and yet oppose the latter. Polygamous groups tried to get legal sanction for their alternate sexual lifestyle first, so I think they should be granted it first; or at the same time; if a law were formulated that made it legal for two or three adults of any gender combination to be married, I would support that law.

Note, though, that I am not saying I want polygamy to come back to the LDS Church. I don't think that will ever happen, and for the record I do not want that to happen. Rather I'm looking for vindication. I want the United States to admit (either explicitly or, by passing said law, implicitly) that it violated the LDS Church's rights by nearly legislating it out of existence for doing the moral equivalent of what gay couples are doing today.

The short answer is that no, I don't endorse gay marriage, not before the US makes polygamy legal. But after the US does make polygamy legal, or even as soon as the US makes polygamy legal, then I have no problem with gay marriage.

Do you support polygamous gay marriage then? Seems like that has everything in it that you are looking for.

[_KevinSim]

Because a two parent household with both a father and a mother is better for children.

So what the State of Texas does, is place a child who needs foster care with straight foster parents if it can find some, and with gay foster parents if it cannot. Likewise, Texas lets a child who needs adoption be adopted by straight adoptive parents if it can find some, and by gay adoptive parents if it cannot.

I like this policy. It's simply too important for children to be in a home where someone loves them, for anybody to be quibbling over the sexual orientation of the foster or adoptive parents.

[_KevinSim]

Do you support polygamous gay marriage then? Seems like that has everything in it that you are looking for.

Yes, I do support legalizing polygamous gay marriage. In fact I think I already said I do.

[_Tobin]

Do you support polygamous gay marriage then? Seems like that has everything in it that you are looking for.

Yes, I do support legalizing polygamous gay marriage. In fact I think I already said I do.

Interesting. You are definitely ahead of the curve of where I believe the American public is. I think you'd find a majority of Americans are for gay marriage. I don't think they'd support polygamy and certainly not polygamous gay marriage. Personally, I really don't care who people marry. They can marry their pet sheep if they want as long as they don't invite me over for a sleep-over.

[_Daniel2]

Droopy's claim that the efficacy of reparative therapy is "well established" is bold, indeed.

I "third" this CFR for peer-reviewed references (counting Buffalo's comment as the "second").

We're all still waiting, Droop.

Daniel2

[Guest]

Well, it's nice to see Mormons side with this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/iran-bl ... osexuality

Probably gets Mr. Droopy hot and bothered...

- VRDRC

You have no idea how that breaks my heart.

In Sadr City, Iraq they are bashing us in the head with rocks until we are dead.

3.11.12
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/1 ... _ref=false

[_Bond James Bond]

Droopy's claim that the efficacy of reparative therapy is "well established" is bold, indeed.

I "third" this CFR for peer-reviewed references (counting Buffalo's comment as the "second").

We're all still waiting, Droop.

Daniel2

Pull up a chair, I've been waiting a while.

[_MrStakhanovite]

What a great thread.

[_Morley]

Interesting. You are definitely ahead of the curve of where I believe the American public is. I think you'd find a majority of Americans are for gay marriage. I don't think they'd support polygamy and certainly not polygamous gay marriage. Personally, I really don't care who people marry. They can marry their pet sheep if they want as long as they don't invite me over for a sleep-over.

(My emphasis.)


I think you mean "sheep-over."

[_Tobin]

[Interesting. You are definitely ahead of the curve of where I believe the American public is. I think you'd find a majority of Americans are for gay marriage. I don't think they'd support polygamy and certainly not polygamous gay marriage. Personally, I really don't care who people marry. They can marry their pet sheep if they want as long as they don't invite me over for a sleep-over.

(My emphasis.)
I think you mean "sheep-over."

Of course not. That would be baaaaad.