I don't know why you bother, lulu. Clearly you've got much more interesting things to talk about. Don't waste your time with anyone capable of such laughable statements. Life is far too short.
Its well understood history.
Which is doubtless why you have no intellectual acquaintance with it.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Let's consider a society that not only removed all rights from homosexuals, but had them wear designations (and eventually exterminated them). That would be Nazi Germany.
The Nazis did persecute some homosexuals. The Nazi political inner circle, the SS, and other of its institutions were loaded with them.
Ah, Droopy is one of those "the Pink Swastika" types. It is a perverse theory (championed in the book "'The Pink Swastika") in Fundamental Christendom (and apparently part of Conservative Mormonism) that the Nazis were gays and Nazism was orchestrated by gays to persecute the religious. The chief aim of this theory is to deflect any blame from Christians and others that collaborated with the Nazis in the murder of millions of Jews. They are in full denial that one million gays were targeted and persecuted (including outlawing of any homosexual behavior on penality of death in 1933) and an estimated 50-100k gay/lebians were eventually imprisoned and/or killed by the Nazis. To accomplish this deceit, they highlight some of the sexual perversion exhibited in the Nazi leadership and then generalize that to paint the whole Nazi leadership as being gay or gay sympathizers. The whole concept is completely laughable however since they never explain why gay people felt the need to persecute, imprison and kill other gay people in the first place. Nor can they explain why the Nazis passed laws outlawing homosexuality (instead of promoting it).
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"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
I don't know why you bother, lulu. Clearly you've got much more interesting things to talk about. Don't waste your time with anyone capable of such laughable statements. Life is far too short.
Its well understood history.
Which is doubtless why you have no intellectual acquaintance with it.
Let's begin with an antecedentless pronoun. Things will go down hill from there.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Let's begin with an antecedentless pronoun. Things will go down hill from there.
You've clearly lost this entire argument, and are well aware that you have, so now its ad hominem time until the thread goes to the bottom of the page.
I'm well aware of the pattern, but I'm always willing to accept white flags when they're raised, even when they're raised so circuitously as this.
(Note: since this is a message board, I sometimes post as if speaking in an open, conversational style, in may cases to achieve a certain effect, in which cases proper sentence structure is not always either required or appropriate. Get over it).
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Let's begin with an antecedentless pronoun. Things will go down hill from there.
You've clearly lost this entire argument, and are well aware that you have, so now its ad hominem time until the thread goes to the bottom of the page.
I'm well aware of the pattern, but I'm always willing to accept white flags when they're raised, even when they're raised so circuitously as this.
(Note: since this is a message board, I sometimes post as if speaking in an open, conversational style, in may cases to achieve a certain effect, in which cases proper sentence structure is not always either required or appropriate. Get over it).
Why yes, Droopy, this is a message board, each thread having numerous posts, various posts having different authors, many posts having internal quotations, Get With It, begin with a noun.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Droopy wrote:The Nazis did persecute some homosexuals. The Nazi political inner circle, the SS, and other of its institutions were loaded with them.
I don't know why you bother, lulu. Clearly you've got much more interesting things to talk about. Don't waste your time with anyone capable of such laughable statements. Life is far too short.
Blixa is wise.
I need a new truth table from Stak.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Blixa is a sometimes charming but always insufferably patronizing leftist intellectual prig who very rarely actually engages anyone who sees things differently than she does in any kind of extended debate. She's a "drive by" sniper who hits and runs and apparently thinks she's quite "smart" (and for Blixa, you can only be "smart" if you have a formal advanced degree, such a credential conferring smartness in the same way a union card makes one a skilled craftsman, non-union workers being less skilled by definition).
Its difficult to actually gauge her knowledge of anything political or philosophical as she has traditionally refused to engage any such issues at any length.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
lulu wrote:Blixa is wise. I need a new truth table from Stak.
Droopy wrote:Blixa is a sometimes charming but always insufferably patronizing leftist intellectual prig who very rarely actually engages anyone who sees things differently than she does in any kind of extended debate. She's a "drive by" sniper who hits and runs and apparently thinks she's quite "smart" (and for Blixa, you can only be "smart" if you have a formal advanced degree, such a credential conferring smartness in the same way a union card makes one a skilled craftsman, non-union workers being less skilled by definition).
Its difficult to actually gauge her knowledge of anything political or philosophical as she has traditionally refused to engage any such issues at any length.
lol. It's an inside joke. But not all that inside because it's posted on a public bulletin board. And not just any public bulletin board, but one you frequent.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Blixa is a sometimes charming but always insufferably patronizing leftist intellectual prig who very rarely actually engages anyone who sees things differently than she does in any kind of extended debate. She's a "drive by" sniper who hits and runs and apparently thinks she's quite "smart"
LOL On the contrary, anyone can see that (ironically) Droopy is an insufferably patronizing rightwing pseudo-intellectual prig who very rarely actually engages anyone who sees things differently than he does in any kind of extended debate. He is a "drive by" sniper who hits and runs and apparently thinks he's quite "smart"...
The OP is an example of a Droopy drive by. It might be long but it is only a lecture and not an invitation to discussion. He thinks he can school us.
Might I add that I have hardly seen an argument from Droopy. Only rants and bald assertions presented as if they were obvious to any serious person (and they are far from obvious)
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie
yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo