Doing the math: work for the dead during millennium

[_harmony]

Well, shoot. I was looking at the thread title and seeing "math", then seeing "Tarski" on the list of posters, and I'm thinking... wow... I'm going to see some major math stuff going on...

*sigh*

No higher learning for harmony today.

[_Nightlion]

(I am waiting for the denials and false modesty).

Okay, but right now I have to go unload my truck and finish helping my daughter to move.

[_Nightlion]

Ya right. LOL
Look pal, if God is just going to look into our hearts or look into the future and see who would accept the gospel then he need not put us through all of this.
How about this: The only people who need to be challenged with the earthly test are the ones who would pass the test.

First off, I don't think I appreciate your tone, pal. I recall explaining on another of my "nobody will admit that they read nightlion" threads that God is in the business of managing all things which has to be about putting everything in its proper place. He uses laws as a means to this end. We agree to those laws when we accept being added upon by the first and then by another of his magnificent gifts.

Top Ten gifts of God
1. Independent existence by the gift of knowledge to organize yourself according to that sphere of existence that such knowledge allows. Man for us, animals for them, plant, planets, etc.
By this act God is the Eternal Father of all things. All three, The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are each of them the Very Eternal Father having brought forth that which is eternal in all things by the will of the Father, by the word of Christ, (The Only Begotten of God) and by the power of the Holy Ghost together in the same dawn of creation.

2. A seed body in the spiritual world.
3. A physical body in this world
4. Faith to believe.
5. Repentance
6. A new creation subjecting us to Jesus Christ by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost.
7. Eternal life (exaltation kind)
8. Resurrection
9. The best possible place to exist according to your works.
10. Second death, either for those who must,(Satan & cohorts, SoP) or those who want to try again. (Eventually nearly everyone who falls short does.)

I know it is politically correct around here to humor you but I can't bring myself to do it.

I for one am much humored.

I am going to guess that you are like one of those ranting guys on a street corner that wears a sign warning that the end is near. You probably failed both at worldly endeavors such as career and also did not become a church leader as you once envisioned. Then in a stroke of desperation rooted in ego you decide to invert everything and declare both the world and the church to be abominations while little old you are the undiscovered prophet and spiritual genius.

The turning of things up-sidedown was the LDS Church. Read you Isaiah man.

Have you picked out which specific street guy I am most like? The Nehor already went this route in spades and had me falling down drunk between street ventures.

I admit to being much chagrined at NOT being groomed for GA. At eighteen I lived among these groomers, (East Millcreek) and was purposefully rejected out of hand.

I was filled with the power of the Spirit and they wanted blindness, only blindness and deafness to hide themselves from the evident tokens of righteousness that I presented. I was asked to talk extemporaneously and called the congregation to repentance when I returned home from LA having there accomplished my repentance and being visited of God and wrought upon and cleansed by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. I was never asked to speak in Sacrament Meeting again. (twenty-years) Yet each week the great ones staggered back on their heels, mouths agape, at the wonderful words that poured out of me unfolding LDS scripture and doctrine.

THEN, I went on a mission ( they did allow me to talk at my own farewell and homecoming, but they hated it) where, having witnessed the power of the Holy Ghost fall upon me unto the immediate conversion of two investigators it was testified by one Elder Huish in the next Mission Conference that I was to become an apostle. Image the envy that got me. Swell. I spent forty years now about half in the Church and now half out, striving to convince LDS to get the gospel right. I would have preached great, given a shot.

You got any way of demonstrating what I say is not correct according to extant LDS scripture? Hmm?

I did take to the street April 5 2009 and cried loudly, holding up a sign of The Apocalrock on the corner of Main and North Temple before the final session of LDS General Conference and bellowed at the crowd, SORRY TO BE RAISING THE BAR FOLKS BUT YOU CANNOT BE THE TRUE CHURCH UNLESS YOU ARE THE REEEEEEEEEEAL ZION! I was delivering the news that the day of the Gentile was over.

(I am waiting for the denials and false modesty).

Sorry to disappoint on both counts.

[_Buffalo]

Here are my assumptions:

number of spirits waiting = 200,000,000,000
number of active, TR holding members willing and able to do the work = 4,000,000
spirits for each person = spirits / members = 50,000
amount of time to do the work for a single spirit = about 4 hours (b,c,i,e,s)
Assume each person does one spirit per day
To do the work for 50,000 spirits, it would take 137 years doing one per day. (spirits / 365 days)

I think the second coming will need to wait until we have about 15,000,000 TR holding members or some resurrected beings will need to assist.

I think the way to calculate this would be to take a look at the bottleneck - the endowment. That's the ceremony that takes the longest (1 hour 45 min?), so that puts the limit on the output of souls saved. You can bang out 30 baptisms in 10 minutes if you want. Use the unendowed millennial teens to do it.

But then again, it seems to be accepted Mormon practice to baptize, confirm, initiate, endow and seal the same deceased souls many times over. So that could complicate things.

[_krose]

Interesting resurrected thread.

One problem is that they are falling further behind every day, unable to even keep up with the daily death rate. That trend is going to continue for quite a while, because there is no sign that the supposed "millennium" is anywhere near.