WTF? Boyd Packer?????s Art Testifies of Divinity of Creation?

[_ludwigm]

I almost linked to a Joel-Peter Witkin print, but changed my mind at the last moment...

You are right... Breasts and genitals are not allowed. (I've paid two weeks ban for it!)

... but one can google image the name ...

[_Blixa]

I almost linked to a Joel-Peter Witkin print, but changed my mind at the last moment...

Sweet guy. We need to talk photography equipment at some point.

[_Corpsegrinder]

We need to talk photography equipment at some point.

You mean wet collodion & daguerreotype equipment? I'd love to!

[_Buffalo]

I like to paint things into Mormon kitsch images from the internet. No need to buy a whole painting. Just buy photoshop, and maybe a drawing tablet, for years of therapeutic hobbying.

Original Image: http://ldsengine.com/heroposters/index. ... duct_id=76

Improved Image:



-JV

Sheer genius!!

[_Corpsegrinder]

Sheer genius!!

I agree, I love it.

JV, what does the text at the bottom say?

[_Juggler Vain]

Sheer genius!!

I agree, I love it.

JV, what does the text at the bottom say?

Thanks! I like it when Mormon art actually says something interesting. Sometimes it needs some help to get there.

The text at the bottom, in the original, says the following:

Joseph Smith history:
59 At length the time arrived for obtaining the plates...having gone as usual at the end of another year to the place where they were deposited, the same heavenly messenger delivered them up to me with this charge: that I should be responsible for them; that if I should let them go carelessly, or through any neglect of mine, I should be cut off...

60 ...For no sooner was it known that I had them, than the most strenuous exertions were used to get them from me... The persecution became more bitter and severe than before, and multitudes were on the alert continually to get them from me if possible. But by the wisdom of God, they remained safe in my hands, until I had accomplished by them what was required at my hand.

The improved version should say something like this:

I am intrigued that Joseph Smith—an unschooled young man in rural America—could have translated [the Golden Plates'] Semitic language mix into the English language. That unlikely scenario relates to Isaiah’s remarkable prophecy:

“I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder.” (Isa. 29:14.)

***

The details of [Joseph's] miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Yet we do have a few precious insights. David Whitmer wrote:

“Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.” (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)

Emma Smith, who acted as an earlier scribe for Joseph, gave this account in 1856:

“When my husband was translating the Book of Mormon, I wrote a part of it, as he dictated each sentence, word for word, and when he came to proper names he could not pronounce, or long words, he spelled them out, and while I was writing them, if I made any mistake in spelling, he would stop me and correct my spelling although it was impossible for him to see how I was writing them down at the time. Even the word Sarah he could not pronounce at first, but had to spell it, and I would pronounce it for him. (Edmund C. Briggs, “A Visit to Nauvoo in 1856,” Journal of History, Jan. 1916, p. 454.)

--Russell M. Nelson, “A Treasured Testament,” Ensign, July 1993, 61

-JV

[_zeezrom]

Zeezrom, I agree, it testifies of the divine. That sentiment may not be popular in these parts. There is no proof of Gods existence in the painting.

But my, its a lovely painting. it is good just to see it. I was thinking, 1866 and still looking so much like Manet. But then that dress has a something completely outside Manet. That green flowing could be pregnant with a whole garden.

But if I was thinking of proofs I am reminded of the gambit that says whole classes of BYU students (or University of Kansas students for that matter) could never put a Book of Mormon fiction together. Thus,it is suggested, The Book of Mormon must be of divine origen and demonstates Gods existence. I feel confident similar classes of students could not make Mr Monets painting. That could argue that the painting fell from heaven? Perhaps Monet fell from heaven. or Perhaps it demonstrates that some people are more clever and visonary than whole schoolfuls of people.

I think there are visions worth seeking out. Some people can help us open our eyes. But it could be wondered if a vision which is unattainble or unseen by most people untill a visionary reveals it could properly be a concern for all us ordinaries.i think we share..

I still can't define "divine". I have some ideas but nothing concrete.