Mormon's Criticized for not Accepting the "Trinity" Doctrine

[_Brackite]

The Following Passages are from the Book of Mormon:

2 Nephi 31:

[21] And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.

Alma 11:

[44] Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.

Mormon 7:

[7] And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.

Just a Quick Note here: Mormon Chapter seven, verse seven from the 1830 edition from the Book of Mormon states, "which is one God," instead of "which are one God," in the modern edition of the Book of Mormon.

Link: http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bom1830/Mormon.shtml

[_thews]

Christ - Christian, Duh!

Of course our Christianity doesn't look like their traditional or creedal christianity.

That's because it isn't. "Christianity" doesn't include one single shred of doctrine by Joseph Smith. "Christianity" rejects Joseph Smith as a false prophet of God. "Christianity" rejects the Joseph Smith version of the Godhead, the Masonic rituals, the polygamous version of heaven on Kolob and every damn single thing about Mormonism. Why Mormons are so ashamed of being "Mormon" is beyond me, as Christians are not Mormons, just as Jews are not Christians as they accept/reject two completely different sets of doctrines. Wanna play the "official" card here BC in the KJV vs. the JST? To muddy the water I expect you would, but there aren't any Christians who want the label of "LDS" or "Mormon" championing this ridiculous argument that the religions are the same, as they are completely different based on a completely different set of doctrine.

[_KevinSim]

If the biggest Mormon faction gets to decide who can be called Mormons, the biggest Christian factions get to decide who can be called Christians.

Sounds kind of circular to me.

How do you find out if the LDS Church is Christian? Ask the biggest Christian faction. How do you find out if a faction is Christian so you can figure out if it's the biggest Christian faction? Well, once again you ask the biggest Christian faction. And on and on you go.

[_gdemetz]

Well, as I stated before in so many words, the false god of apostate Christendom, the three in one "of the same substance," is not the true God of the primitive church, nor is it the God of the restored church. The Biblical accounts show clearly the same thing that Joseph Smith saw, and that is Jesus Christ at the right hand of Heavenly Father! No one even knows who wrote the ridiculous Athanasian Creed from which this silly belief came from. It was written during the time of Athenasius who defended it, and as a result is called by his name. Anyway, I invite all to read it over the internet, and if you still believe it after reading it all, then I can recommend some good doctors for you! However, please don't try to tell me that it is Biblical! Furthermore, all the basic ordinances of the primitive church have been restored in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; such as baptism by immersion, the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, baptism for the dead, etc., etc., etc. What has been restored by apostate Christendom? Nothing, only the teachings and doctrines have been corrupted! For example, the teaching that one can just walk down the aisle, make a profession of faith and, glory be, be saved forever, etc., etc., etc. Is all this hogwash Biblical? Heck no!

[_Drifting]

Well, as I stated before in so many words, the false god of apostate Christendom, the three in one "of the same substance," is not the true God of the primitive church, nor is it the God of the restored church. The Biblical accounts show clearly the same thing that Joseph Smith saw, and that is Jesus Christ at the right hand of Heavenly Father! No one even knows who wrote the ridiculous Athanasian Creed from which this silly belief came from. It was written during the time of Athenasius who defended it, and as a result is called by his name. Anyway, I invite all to read it over the internet, and if you still believe it after reading it all, then I can recommend some good doctors for you! However, please don't try to tell me that it is Biblical! Furthermore, all the basic ordinances of the primitive church have been restored in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; such as baptism by immersion, the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, baptism for the dead, etc., etc., etc. What has been restored by apostate Christendom? Nothing, only the teachings and doctrines have been corrupted! For example, the teaching that one can just walk down the aisle, make a profession of faith and, glory be, be saved forever, etc., etc., etc. Is all this hogwash Biblical? Heck no!

But gdemetz, you don't believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
You believe in Gods, lots of Gods who used to be men, who now rule their own planets with their harems of polygamous wives.

[_lulu]

But gdemetz, you don't believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. You believe in Gods, lots of Gods who used to be men, who now rule their own planets with their harems of polygamous wives.

You're not with the Neon Neo-Orthodoxy. I don't know that we believe that.

[_Brackite]

Well, as I stated before in so many words, the false god of apostate Christendom, the three in one "of the same substance," is not the true God of the primitive church, nor is it the God of the restored church. The Biblical accounts show clearly the same thing that Joseph Smith saw, and that is Jesus Christ at the right hand of Heavenly Father! No one even knows who wrote the ridiculous Athanasian Creed from which this silly belief came from. It was written during the time of Athenasius who defended it, and as a result is called by his name. Anyway, I invite all to read it over the internet, and if you still believe it after reading it all, then I can recommend some good doctors for you! However, please don't try to tell me that it is Biblical! Furthermore, all the basic ordinances of the primitive church have been restored in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; such as baptism by immersion, the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, baptism for the dead, etc., etc., etc. What has been restored by apostate Christendom? Nothing, only the teachings and doctrines have been corrupted! For example, the teaching that one can just walk down the aisle, make a profession of faith and, glory be, be saved forever, etc., etc., etc. Is all this hogwash Biblical? Heck no!

Dear gdemetz,

Are you going to continue to pretend that those Pro-Trinity Passages within the Book of Mormon don't exist???

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[_gdemetz]

Drifting, I know what I believe in! Of course, I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, but what Paul states is also true; that there are gods many and lords many! Even Christ quoted Psalms in defending Himself by stating that "ye are gods." However, we only worship the "Godhead" as it is more accurately described. The Book of Mormon passages do refer to the the Godhead as being one God which we worship, but this statement should not be twisted to mean that the three personages which make up the Godhead which we worship are all of the same "substance," as if to say that even though the revelations were recorded by Joseph Smith himself, he didn't even understand what he was writing!

[_Drifting]

Drifting, I know what I believe in! Of course, I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, but what Paul states is also true; that there are gods many and lords many! Even Christ quoted Psalms in defending Himself by stating that "ye are gods." However, we only worship the "Godhead" as it is more accurately described. The Book of Mormon passages do refer to the the Godhead as being one God which we worship, but this statement should not be twisted to mean that the three personages which make up the Godhead which we worship are all of the same "substance," as if to say that even though the revelations were recorded by Joseph Smith himself, he didn't even understand what he was writing!

So I am correct.
You believe that God was once a man.
You believe that God has many wives.
You believe that you can become a God, just like God.
You believe that you have to be married to a woman to reach the highest level of heaven.
You believe that polygamy will be an acceptable form of marriage in the highest level of heaven for you, as a God and that will include having sex with ,multiple wives.
You believe you will be able, as a God, to oversee the creation and management of your own planet.

Did I get anything doctrinally incorrect?

[_huckelberry]

Drifting, I know what I believe in! Of course, I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, but what Paul states is also true; that there are gods many and lords many! Even Christ quoted Psalms in defending Himself by stating that "ye are gods." However, we only worship the "Godhead" as it is more accurately described. The Book of Mormon passages do refer to the the Godhead as being one God which we worship, but this statement should not be twisted to mean that the three personages which make up the Godhead which we worship are all of the same "substance," as if to say that even though the revelations were recorded by Joseph Smith himself, he didn't even understand what he was writing!

I cannot imagine why it is not perfectly natural to think of them as the same substance. I suppose it is possible to think of the matter differently but why would one.? Unless there is a shortage of divine substance there is pleanty to allow the Son to sit beside the Father. Becauset they are different persons it would be natrural for the Son to pray to the Father. Those Biblical details were guidelines for the Bishops and representatives at the coucil of Nicaea which gave the Trinity doctrine its official form.