Release the Mormon Church Financial Statements

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_Themis
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Re: Release the Mormon Church Financial Statements

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KevinSim wrote:Analytics, why do you think that a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible?


That's not what he said, but I think you knew that. :twisted:
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_Tim
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Just got my church's statement two weeks ago.
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KevinSim wrote:
harmony wrote:The only people who would ask that are the ones who had faith in a con man.

Harmony, are you saying I have faith in a con man? If so, why do you think so?


God does not hide. God does not need money. God needs honest people, not just men, who want to do his work, not their work. The list of things that God does not need is long and varied, and includes limos, maids, cooks, and a paycheck. God does not need rock star status, malls built with his tithes, and social networking. God does not need prophets who don't prophesy, seers who refuse to see, and revelators who reveal nothing.

Only you can decide if you've placed your bet your eternal salvation on the wrong guy.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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If the financial statements of the Church were faith promoting they would be published in a heartbeat. They're not published so we can confidently conclude they are not faith promoting.
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KevinSim wrote:
zeezrom wrote:If you were church shopping, would you pick one of the few that keeps its financial records closed to its membership and lay leadership?

Yes! If I were church shopping, I would look for one that I could be reasonably certain God had inspired. What do open or closed financial records have to do with whether or not God has inspired it?


Well, nothing, I guess, if you appreciate furtiveness in your god.
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If ever there were a mark of suspicion on the Church, this is it.
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J. Reuben Clark may have had his faults but he wanted the Church's finances to be publicly accessible. He was against financial secrecy.
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Corpsegrinder wrote:J. Reuben Clark may have had his faults but he wanted the Church's finances to be publicly accessible. He was against financial secrecy.


But financial transparency might mean no City Creek!
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Themis wrote:
KevinSim wrote:Analytics, why do you think that a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible?


That's not what he said, but I think you knew that. :twisted:

Themis, in the article you're referring to I quoted Analytics as saying, "all reputible ones do." The context showed that the "ones" were churches and the "do" was disclose their finances. If all churches disclose their finances then clearly a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible. So if Analytics thinks that all reputible churches disclose their finances, then doesn't it logically follow that he thinks a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible?
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