asbestosman wrote:Runtu, are there any sins you haven't yet confessed to a priesthood lea__ . . . I mean to why me? Also, what were you wearing at the time? It was light cotton, wasn't it?
It's nice having why me on my ignore list because I have no idea as to the context of his statement.
But to answer your question, no, I didn't have a problem. When I was 22, it had been about 5 years since I had tampered with the little factory, and I was so naïve and afraid of lusting that I usually looked away, but if I didn't I'd feel terribly guilty about it. I was so inexperienced that on my honeymoon, I told my wife that her nether regions looked different from what I had expected. I know. TMI.
But, yes, I was a sheltered little Mormon boy afraid of doing anything even remotely wrong.
TMI? I'm not sure, to me TMI crosses a line from "I wouldn't admit/say that about myself" over to "I didn't want to hear/know that about you. I don't think you crossed it for me but it does leave me wondering just what you expected in the nether regions
RayAgostini wrote: Probably one lesson age has taught me is that what's hot on the outside, often isn't "hot" (personality wise) on the inside. I think it's fair to say that Mormon missionaries in Australia have a hard time in summer (I'm sounding like Confucius now).
why me wrote:Which is why you are now out of the church. You needed to relax and loosen up a little. We easterners had no problem with looking. The secret is not to lust but to admire.
Now I remember why I have you on ignore.
Because he has an eery resemblance to the "un-sub" on Criminal Minds?
The exotic Poiret might have been Joseph Fielding Smith's nemesis. He stripped dresses of the corset, petticoat, and the S curve silhouette.
Praise be this father of fantasy!
Georges Lepape's Les choses de Paul Poiret (1911)
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
zeezrom wrote:The exotic Poiret might have been Joseph Fielding Smith's nemesis. He stripped dresses of the corset, petticoat, and the S curve silhouette.
Praise be this father of fantasy!
Georges Lepape's Les choses de Paul Poiret (1911)
That's obscene, Zee! They are wearing PANTS!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Oh, and one of the reasons Heavenly Father is mad at Athena? Because Athena is an advocate of haute-couture.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
just me wrote:That's obscene, Zee! They are wearing PANTS!
exactly. Poor Joseph fielding smith.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
DarkHelmet wrote: LOL. Well, you learn pretty quickly not to be obvious when you check them out. Maybe a 22 year old still stares at a girls tits when he talks to her, but he will eventually learn. Even when you're 40 you might slip up. It's a natural instinct. The point is, the appropriate behavior is to look them in the eye.
It is not a question of staring when talking to her. It is a question of noticing her when she walks by. Young men have sex on the brain and it doesn't take much to elicit the imagination. There are plenty of styles out there that are modest and yet attractive. The feelings that should be elicited are attraction and not lust.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
asbestosman wrote:Who are the strange guys making this claim?
I realize subtlety eludes you, but maybe the point people are trying to make is that leering is something civilized men learn to control just as we learn not to pass gas whenever we feel like it. Furthermore it is the men's duty to control their thoughts, not the women's responsibility that some men ogle her.
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Why wear those kind of clothes at all? Men and women need to wear clothes but they can be modest in nature. As I said to dark helmet there are plenty of nice styles out there where women can be attractive in their modesty. On campus, where young men have hormones running amok, it is best not to wear clothing that may give the young men lustful thoughts. In fact, the feelings that women should want to convey are admiration and attraction.
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I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Tarski wrote: The real sin is to try to extinguish this.
Translation: Thank you to all those who dress with some sex appeal. You are the normal ones-- not the old fuddy-duddies behind the pulpit.
I agree. But there is a difference between sex appeal and lust.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
