Who are Wade Englund and Scott Lloyd?

[_stemelbow]

They're both incredibly self-righteous, lifelong virgins, and have learning disabilities. Derrick was banned for making violent threats. Do you think that's unfair?

Wade doesn't make violent threats, as far as I know. You are way off in that attempt. Wade is probably far closer to you then to Derrick.

[_Runtu]

Scott Lloyd is the guy who says I am a follower of Satan. Wade is the one who says I have mental and cognitive deficiencies.

[_stemelbow]

Scott Lloyd is the guy who says I am a follower of Satan. Wade is the one who says I have mental and cognitive deficiencies.

And yet, they both love you.

[_Runtu]

And yet, they both love you.

You just made me literally LOL.

[_stemelbow]

You just made me literally LOL.

Glad it worked.

[_Jaybear]

Scott Lloyd is the guy who says I am a follower of Satan. Wade is the one who says I have mental and cognitive deficiencies.

Nailed them:
Scott -- judgmental and self-righteous.
Wade --- arrogant and condescending.

I was not surprised to learn that Wade has never married, and Scott did not marry until well into his middle ages. I can only image how psychologically damaging it must be to be an ubber Mormon male approaching middle age without being able to attract a celestial mate.

[_Runtu]

Nailed them:
Scott -- judgmental and self-righteous.
Wade --- arrogant and condescending.

I was not surprised to learn that Wade has never married, and Scott did not marry until well into his middle ages. I can only image how psychologically damaging it must be to be an ubber Mormon male approaching middle age without being able to attract a celestial mate.

Both of them have actually said that to me. Scott said that in leaving the church, I had chosen to follow Satan, though he meant no offense by it. For a long time Wade's shtick was to suggest that leaving the church was a result of cognitive distortion, and therefore he recommended cognitive behavioral therapy for all ex-Mormons. These days, Wade appears to be more on Lloyd's page: spiritual immaturity and/or sin cause people to leave.

[_Buffalo]

They're both incredibly self-righteous, lifelong virgins, and have learning disabilities. Derrick was banned for making violent threats. Do you think that's unfair?

Wade doesn't make violent threats, as far as I know. You are way off in that attempt. Wade is probably far closer to you then to Derrick.

I never claimed he did. Nevertheless, Wade and Derrick both share the following in common:

[x] self-righteous
[x] sexually frustrated virgins
[x] learning disabilities

Whereas I:

[x] claim to be unrighteous
[x] doin' it with my wife frequently
[x] no learning disabilities (personality disorders don't count!)

[_lostindc]

Nailed them:
Scott -- judgmental and self-righteous.
Wade --- arrogant and condescending.

I was not surprised to learn that Wade has never married, and Scott did not marry until well into his middle ages. I can only image how psychologically damaging it must be to be an ubber Mormon male approaching middle age without being able to attract a celestial mate.

Both of them have actually said that to me. Scott said that in leaving the church, I had chosen to follow Satan, though he meant no offense by it. For a long time Wade's shtick was to suggest that leaving the church was a result of cognitive distortion, and therefore he recommended cognitive behavioral therapy for all ex-Mormons. These days, Wade appears to be more on Lloyd's page: spiritual immaturity and/or sin cause people to leave.

this is terrible although I am not surprised to read Scott Lloyd spewing more hateful rhetoric in order to answer those that leave Mormonism.

Is Scott Lloyd still employed by the Church in the capacity of glorified blogger?

[_3sheets2thewind]

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There are times when Scott Lloyd is very trite.

Wade on the other hand, rarely reflects a "Christian" demeanor in his online activities.

So what to make of them. Just know that wade appears angry, bitter and expresses an irrational disdain of anyone who does not pronounce the LDS Church as the best thing every on earth. His online activities show a almost utter lack of charity, kindness or respectful disagreement. To sum up, Wade, online activities are not in step with LDS Church instruction.

Wade twin is JeffK. Some how, though, wade, is permitted to spew his sick without moderation, but Jeffk is reaching the end of his 30day ban (which is his second banning in about 6months).