Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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EAllusion wrote:Jon Stewart is a better newscaster than almost all straight TV journalism. Unfortunately, that says more about the state of our TV news media than it does Stewart. And that's a widely shared opinion by a lot of "serious thinkers," so one can presume your next assertion will be that no true scotsman eats his porridge hot.


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static wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:Droopy didn't watch Stewart use this bit to make fun of Democrats hypocritically trashing the LDS Church.


He must have missed that. I enjoyed it!


Kishkumen wrote:I thought it was hilarious. Lawrence O'Donnell is a creep.

It ain't easy being Keith Olbermann's replacement.
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Almost all of that was criticizing Democrat partisans. I'm putting the odds of you actually listening to it before writing this comment at 1 in 7.


There's nothing this maroon can do at this point to redeem himself. He has a long history, and he's no conservative (and no "liberal" either). He's as gassy and intellectually foppish as Maher (as his tendentious "Rally to Restore Sanity" event made clear.

I don't watch John Stewart. I don't have to watch John Stewart. John Stewart is a toid. Delusion is a toid. Kishkumen is a toid (and if you don't know what a "toid" is, then you are a Bimphus. And believe me, this is the worst thing you could be. Worse than a leftist. Worse than a commie. Worse even, than a Democrat. Yea, worse than being
in Detroit).

Jon Stewart is a better newscaster than almost all straight TV journalism


I didn't know he was Gay.

. Unfortunately, that says more about the state of our TV news media than it does Stewart. And that's a widely shared opinion by a lot of "serious thinkers," so one can presume your next assertion will be that no true scotsman eats his porridge hot.


John Stewart is not a newscaster. John Stewart is a comedian who does faux newscasts as stand-up comedy.

But then, Most folks in the leftist mainstream media aren't serious newscasters either, and do an awful lot of unintentional stand-up comedy (such as the ongoing Trayvon Martin neo-Jacobin populist guillotine sharpening),
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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In point of fact, when I tried to watch it, my computer locked-up and had to be restarted. I've been having trouble with this lately, especially on live-365, when the flash player plug-in crashes and freezes the whole thing up. It seems to be worse with Google Chrome than with Firefox, but it happens on both.

I'll get to it later.
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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In the Off Topic forum not that long ago Droopy posted an article written by one of the main people behind the swiftboating of John Kerry. To swiftboat someone is now a term that means to try and bring someone down with a dishonest smear campaign. Droopy finds that guy credible enough to quote full articles from. But Jon Stewart - someone often praised for his criticism of discourse in the media - is just so beyond the pale that no serious thinker should ever take anything he has to say seriously.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that one guy is a freeper whose bread and butter is attacking Democrats and liberals and the other is most famous for pointing out the hypocrisy and dishonesty in conservative news sources on a near daily basis. Nothing at all.
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Droopy wrote:
John Stewart is not a newscaster.


He points out true things through a show that satirizes the failings of the media. It's another way the news gets across. Shocking, I know. His approach often does a better job communicating the news correctly than much of the non-satirical news media does. And this reality has been a topic of academic discussion for years now - after all, what does this say about the state of journalism? - , but hot porridge and all that.

That's not to say Stewart is a golden God who gets nothing wrong or lacks flaws. For those that actually watch the daily show rather than criticize it because they are vaguely aware their "team" gets criticized by it, you'll notice that Stewart is refreshingly open with mea culpas to drill the point home. But it is to say that declaring that no serious thinker could take the show seriously, especially when the person doing the declaring is notorious for linkbombing the absolute dregs of sketchy websites, is just ridiculous.
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EAllusion wrote:In the Off Topic forum not that long ago Droopy posted an article written by one of the main people behind the swiftboating of John Kerry. To swiftboat someone is now a term that means to try and bring someone down with a dishonest smear campaign.


There's only one fundamental problem here, D, and that's that fact that all of the claims the Swifties made regarding the past behavior and character of the traitorous John Kerry, were, for all intents, true. That is easily ascertained by observation of the overwhelming concurrence of virtually the entire chain of command under which Kerry served, and the vast majority of those who were eyewitness to the events that occurred. Secondly is the record of Kerry's own behavior (such as his flat footed Christmas in Cambodia deception), and that aspect of his career that was the actual primary focus of the Swift Vets criticism - his key role in fomenting and popularizing the fantastic intellectual and historical fraud known as the Winter Soldier Investigation, in which an entire generation of soldiers, fighting for a noble cause, and the fundamental nature and principles of the nation in who's name they fought, were calumniated, impugned, and turned into fiendish, drug addled monsters (unlike the noble, courageous, Boy Scout-like Viet Cong).

Kerry and the rest of the mostly phony soldiers (whom subsequent investigation determined had either never been in Viet Nam, had been in Viet Nam, but had never seen combat or any of the fabricated atrocities they claimed to have participated in, or had never been in the military at all) new perfectly well that they were making everything they claimed they had either witnessed or participated in up (and we have long known that except for a few isolated incidents, such as My Lai, virtually everything they claimed was complete fabrication), and were quite vehemnt about it until government investigators sought them out and requested specifics and detail.

Kerry, you see, like so many other leftists of his generation, thought the United States was fighting on the wrong side in that conflict. Kerry wanted the North Vietnamese to win that war, not his own country and the South Vietnamese who eventually paid the price for the victory of the American "peace" movement over humanity.

Kerry, of course, cavorted on friendly terms with the communist enemy while hostilities were still under way (and while still a member of the Untied States military), and shilled for the Paris Peace Plan in America (which was actually nothing more than terms for the abject surrender of the United States and the abandoning of South Vietnam to its fate, which congress later ensured).

Droopy finds that guy credible enough to quote full articles from.


I see no reason, at this juncture, not to find him credible.

Here's a small post-mortem on the end of Kerry's fetid presidential ambitions.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25022

But Jon Stewart - someone often praised for his criticism of discourse in the media - is just so beyond the pale that no serious thinker should ever take anything he has to say seriously.


I take him as seriously as I take Katie Couric or Brian Williams, except that Couric and Williams (and many others) are unintentionally funny.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that one guy is a freeper whose bread and butter is attacking Democrats and liberals


Well, at this point, as the Left in general have moved so far beyond rational or civil discourse that substantive, productive debate with most of its comitted members has become impossible, they have left no other alternative than to simply be defeated politically (before it really is too late) which means, unfortunately, attacking them (i.e., exposing them for what they really are and telling the truth about what they really believe).
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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He points out true things through a show that satirizes the failings of the media.


So does Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and many other radio talk show hosts, but without Stewart's standard left-wing limp.
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Droopy wrote:
He points out true things through a show that satirizes the failings of the media.


So does Rush Limbaugh...standard left-wing limp.


Rush Limbaugh didn't go to Vietnam because he had a cyst on his ass. Talk about a wimp!

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilonidal_cyst
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Well, at this point, as the Left in general have moved so far beyond rational or civil discourse that substantive, productive debate with most of its comitted members has become impossible, they have left no other alternative than to simply be defeated politically (before it really is too late) which means, unfortunately, attacking them (i.e., exposing them for what they really are and telling the truth about what they really believe).


Exposing leftists for what they really are and just telling the truth about them and their actual beliefs, aims, goals, and vision, is perceived as "attack" and as horribly venal and unfair.

Light is, after all, indeed a disinfectant, and disinfecting a wound can sting a bit, it must be admitted.
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