Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Kishkumen wrote:I don't think he seriously believes that Romney will burn in hell. I do think that he hopes to sway some rubes into being bowled over by the fact of Romney's hypocrisy.

If he really wants to highlight Romney's hypocrisy, he should go over the temple interview questions, focusing on #8: "Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow men?"



Edit: You were going to explain how Act One of Wednesday's Daily Show sailed over my head?
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krose wrote:If he really wants to highlight Romney's hypocrisy, he should go over the temple interview questions, focusing on #8: "Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow men?"


Yeah, but I agree with Stewart, so I am not really concerned about Bashir's success in a stupid enterprise.

krose wrote:Edit: You were going to explain how Act One of Wednesday's Daily Show sailed over my head?


Others in the thread hit upon some of the highlights.
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About Mr. Martin Bashir: I am amazed that he said what he said in that segment with a straight face. Is Mr. Bashir going to hold all other politicians and past presidents to every single passage in whichever holy book they happen to accept? How about himself? Keep in mind that the Bible says some strange, crazy stuff by today's standards.

I think Bashir and O'Donnell should choose new professions, preferably ones which require no interaction with the public.
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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Kishkumen wrote:
krose wrote:Edit: You were going to explain how Act One of Wednesday's Daily Show sailed over my head?

Others in the thread hit upon some of the highlights.

Oh. So I guess rather than saying I didn't understand what Stewart was saying (which is how I interpret "didn't get it" and "sailed over your head"), you were saying you didn't agree with my assessment.

I would hate to discover that John Stewart is communicating on an entirely different level than I have been hearing all these years. That might mean I have been misunderstanding Stephen Colbert as well. Perhaps he really is the shallow right-winger, and it's not just a role he plays.
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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static wrote:About Mr. Martin Bashir: I am amazed that he said what he said in that segment with a straight face. Is Mr. Bashir going to hold all other politicians and past presidents to every single passage in whichever holy book they happen to accept? How about himself? Keep in mind that the Bible says some strange, crazy stuff by today's standards.

I think Bashir and O'Donnell should choose new professions, preferably ones which require no interaction with the public.

If they do, I hope Charles Krauthammer and Thomas Sowell join them.
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static wrote:I think Bashir and O'Donnell should choose new professions, preferably ones which require no interaction with the public.

I assume you will apply the same standard to any one of the dozen or so loose cannons that spew their nonsense daily on the Fox "News" Channel.
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You called Jon Stewart a left-wing wimp. I pointed out that Limbaugh wimped out as well, since you suggested he wasn't a wimp.


No I didn't call him a wimp. My response was to the Eskimo pie head who did.
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Let me get this straight. Stewart does a bit in which he criticizes some folks for focusing on Mormonism in a pejorative way, and points out the hypocrisy of doing this to Romney while giving Harry Reid a free pass.... and Droopy dismisses him as a left-wing nut?

Well, between Droopy and Stewart, there's definitely one nut in the room.
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Droopy wrote:
So does Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and many other radio talk show hosts, but without Stewart's standard left-wing limp.


At least people who watch Jon Stewart actually know something.

Unlike the Fox news devotees.


http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11 ... ow-viewers

If Fox News viewers want to be informed about current events, they might as well turn off the TV.

A poll released by Fairleigh Dickinson University on Monday found that people who get their news from Fox News know significantly less about news both in the U.S. and the world than people who watch no news at all.

In a survey of 612 New Jersey natives, Fox News fans flunked questions about Egypt and Syria when compared with people who don't watch the news. Fox viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians toppled their government and 6 points less likely to be aware that Syrians have not yet overthrown theirs.



"Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other groups being more likely to watch Fox News," Dan Cassino, a Fairleigh Dickinson professor who served as an analyst for the poll, said in the report. "Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions that those who don't watch any news at all."


Another powerful source of news was the "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart."

Stewart's viewers had a 12-point higher likelihood of correctly identifying the Wall Street protesters, for example.

"Jon Stewart has not spent a lot of time on some of these issues," Cassino said. "But the results show that when he does talk about something, his viewers pick up a lot more information than they would from other news sources."
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Re: Jon Stewart on Romney and Mormonism

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krose wrote:Why? Well, because Bashir is a liberal host of a liberal opinion show, and Romney is the conservative candidate. The fact that his religion has additional scriptures that condemn his behavior just adds to the interest level of the "Mitt the Mendacious" point that Martin was making that day. It was obviously used as a "gotcha" point.


If he's only going to use his time to use this tactic against conservative candidates with religions the public is suspicious of, then he is guilty of the exact thing Stewart is attacking for. Saying he's a liberal attack dog doesn't excuse his behavior. It describes it.
This "everyone does it" line of argument doesn't stand up to the evidence.

Obama lies all the time. I'm pretty sure his professed religion generally condemns that sort of thing. Bearing false witness and all that.

To address another point in your first post that I didn't, the your defense of Schweitzer's comments wasn't the greatest either. He's the one bringing up Romney's Mexican polygamist associations because he's acting as a Democratic surrogate trying to inject that into the media conversation because people are uncomfortable with it. That it's true Romney would prefer to not address it isn't relevant to the fact that it's a relatively irrelevant piece of information Schweitzer wants people to think about because it is politically damaging. Stewart, rightfully, mocks that.

Your defense of this is akin to Republicans trying to defend the deplorable practice of calling Obama Barrack HUSSEIN Obama by pointing out that this technically is his middle name. They're clearly playing on people's fears and bigotry associated with that middle name even though he doesn't use the first, middle, last naming convention anymore than I do. "What?! What I'm saying is true!" does not excuse this behavior. And it doesn't absolve Schweitzer's game playing either.
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