City Creek Mall versus Urban Decay (with link)

[_hatersinmyward]

Alright!!!

First thing we need is to pass out flyers and put up posters in all the Christian Halls around the State. The Pastors will ask for donations. With populous considered Salt Lake County will be able to support Three 2 meal per day kitchens, and Utah, Davis, and Weber Counties Two 2 meal per day kitchens.

What does the LDS Church do with their tithes? Build Big and Spacious Buildings and turn their own people away when they're down in the gutter.

[_madeleine]

The Mormon church spends its money on a mall, a middle class American from Anywhere puts out $40k for an automobile. Either way, it is self-centered. In other words, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

[_Hades]

Appears God is urban decay neutral.

If the people in this neighborhood want to qualify for one of the Lord's urban development programs, they must first repent and be baptized Mormon. Then they will qualify for a few thousand dollars.

If they get righteous enough to become pure and delightsome, they will qualify for a few million dollars.

If they get righteous enough to become white and delightsome, then they will be entitled to a few billion dollars.

[_Jonah]

The Mormon church spends its money on a mall, a middle class American from Anywhere puts out $40k for an automobile. Either way, it is self-centered. In other words, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

HUH?? I use and need my car daily. Please tell me how a church needs a mall.

[_madeleine]

The Mormon church spends its money on a mall, a middle class American from Anywhere puts out $40k for an automobile. Either way, it is self-centered. In other words, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

HUH?? I use and need my car daily. Please tell me how a church needs a mall.

You could spend $40k on a car, that you need and use every day, or $15k and give $25k to feed the hungry, clothe the poor, care for the ill and dying.

There are needs and wants.

A remedy for urban blight may be a legitimate need but remedying blight with a mall full of shops that cater to the rich is not a need, it is a want.

Prudent giving means you don't give until you go hungry, or spend extravagantly, forgetting those who truly need.

[_Hades]

HUH?? I use and need my car daily. Please tell me how a church needs a mall.

You could spend $40k on a car, that you need and use every day, or $15k and give $25k to feed the hungry, clothe the poor, care for the ill and dying.

There are needs and wants.

A remedy for urban blight may be a legitimate need but remedying blight with a mall full of shops that cater to the rich is not a need, it is a want.

Prudent giving means you don't give until you go hungry, or spend extravagantly, forgetting those who truly need.

The average Mormon doesn't want to hear this as he drives around in his $40k car, knowing that he gave 10% of his income to the Lord so the Lord could feed the hungry

Wait... The average Mormon is driving around in a 1986 Buick because he gave 10% of his income to the Church so they could build Jesus a shopping mall.

[_neworder]

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[_Drifting]

The Mormon church spends its money on a mall, a middle class American from Anywhere puts out $40k for an automobile. Either way, it is self-centered. In other words, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

The middle class American didn't pay for the $40k automobile from funds donated to him under the expectation they were going to charitable causes.

Gods one true Church should be the shining beacon of Christlike actions in the world today. That it isn't should be an embarrassment to members everywhere.

[Guest]

My daily drivers cost 6K and 8K respectively. I have bought a new car, with 0 on the odometer exactly once in my life, as it was a tremendous deal.

As to 40K cars...... If I had anything approaching that..... it would be because of the 100s and 100s of hours I had put into building them.

[_LDSToronto]

A lot has been said on this forum about City Creek Mall, and about how, instead of using tithing funds to build City Creek Mall, the LDS leaders could have used those funds to help the poor, even the poor in third world countries.

Take a look at this link: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay". Do people really think that God wants urban decay? Is it so unreasonable to conclude that God might actually want to work against urban blight by revitalizing downtown Salt Lake City?

If people really think that the LDS leaders should spend the tithing funds on helping the poor in third world countries, then I challenge those people to put their money where their mouth is; set up a faith group that does what the LDS Church does, except instead of revitalizing downtown Salt Lake City it helps the poor in developing nations. And once they've done that, it would be interesting to see if it's as successful in improving the lives of those poor as the LDS Church is in improving the lives of those poor with the Perpetual Education Fund.

I think this thread proves there is no moral ground to stand on when defending City Creek. Showing this is as easy as shooting $150,000 trout in a barrel.

H.