My thoughts on the National Day of Prayer

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_Tarski
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Re: My thoughts on the National Day of Prayer

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Milesius wrote:
Chap wrote:
Does the United States have a 'civic religion' now?


It has for a long time.


Maybe so --in some defacto sense. But, how horrible if it is true. How could anyone hope for this?
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie

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Re: My thoughts on the National Day of Prayer

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Chap wrote:
Does the United States have a 'civic religion' now?



Tarski wrote:
Milesius wrote:It has for a long time.


Maybe so --in some defacto sense. But, how horrible if it is true. How could anyone hope for this?


I do not see how a state with a written constitution and a clear framework of law can acquire something like a civic religion in any meaningful sense if no provision is made for that in its constitution. Indeed, it does seem that the establishment of such a civic religion by law is specifically ruled out: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

It is of course possible for a customary practice to grow up of persons in public life behaving as if a civic religion had been legally established, when it has not. That may or may not have happened. If it has, there is still no way of bridging the gap between such wishful behavior, and saying that the United States actually has a civic religion.
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Re: My thoughts on the National Day of Prayer

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Chap wrote:Does the United States have a 'civic religion' now?
Milesius wrote:It has for a long time.
And it ain't Mormonism.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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