City Creek Mall versus Urban Decay (with link)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I think this thread proves there is no moral ground to stand on when defending City Creek. Showing this is as easy as shooting $150,000 trout in a barrel.

H.

$150,000,000.

- VRDRC

[_harmony]

A lot has been said on this forum about City Creek Mall, and about how, instead of using tithing funds to build City Creek Mall, the LDS leaders could have used those funds to help the poor, even the poor in third world countries.

Take a look at this link: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay". Do people really think that God wants urban decay? Is it so unreasonable to conclude that God might actually want to work against urban blight by revitalizing downtown Salt Lake City?

If people really think that the LDS leaders should spend the tithing funds on helping the poor in third world countries, then I challenge those people to put their money where their mouth is; set up a faith group that does what the LDS Church does, except instead of revitalizing downtown Salt Lake City it helps the poor in developing nations. And once they've done that, it would be interesting to see if it's as successful in improving the lives of those poor as the LDS Church is in improving the lives of those poor with the Perpetual Education Fund.

What exactly did SLC do to deserve that tithing funds be spent on cleaning up her urban blight?

Why not clean up Chicago? Or the Bronx? Or Dallas?

Why is it up to the church to clean up urban blight in SLC? There is nothing there that warrents it, nothing there that deserves it.

The Brethren could use a bit of introspection using 2 Nephi 9:30 and Mosiah 4:26-30 as starters.

I couldn't find anywhere in the canon where it says to use the Lord's tithes to build a mall. Not anywhere.

[_madeleine]

The Mormon church spends its money on a mall, a middle class American from Anywhere puts out $40k for an automobile. Either way, it is self-centered. In other words, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

The middle class American didn't pay for the $40k automobile from funds donated to him under the expectation they were going to charitable causes.

Gods one true Church should be the shining beacon of Christlike actions in the world today. That it isn't should be an embarrassment to members everywhere.

I understand what you are saying, and agree. My only point is, all Christians are called to be the shining beacon of Christlike action in the world today. Sometimes described as, called to be God's hands to those in need.

So these are criticisms that can be aimed at more than an organization. Most people, and organizations, are self-centered. Including myself.

[_madeleine]

My daily drivers cost 6K and 8K respectively. I have bought a new car, with 0 on the odometer exactly once in my life, as it was a tremendous deal.

As to 40K cars...... If I had anything approaching that..... it would be because of the 100s and 100s of hours I had put into building them.

Daily drivers? You're building cars? What sort of cars?

I bought a nice new car, in my high days of hedonism. 125k miles later I'm still driving it, and will do so until it dies. :)

[_SteelHead]

I have a 35 Ford 3 window coupe. A 63 sunbeam alpine. A 67 Ford bronco. And then our daily drivers.