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Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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http://www.theofrak.com/2012/05/arizona-bans-funding-of-planned.html

    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed off on a bill that will prevent abortion providers like Planned Parenthood from receiving public funds in most cases, her office said. "This is a common sense law that tightens existing state regulations and closes loopholes in order to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to fund abortions, whether directly or indirectly," the governor said in a statement.

Conservatives like Brewer try to make it sound that Planned Parenthood is only about abortions. This is completely untrue. Among Planned Parenthood's many services include cancer screenings, birth control, vaccinations, sexual health education, and health counseling. What is the likely result if Planned Parenthood is forced to scale services like birth control and sex education, which are frequently used by low income people? More pregancies and more abortions!

Brewer needs to remember that Roe v. Wade is still the law of the land. All abortions with which Planned Parenthood is involved are legal. This is simply a blatant attempt to legislate Christian morality.

The irony is that Brewer would probably scream bloody murder if the Feds decided to quite supporting religion with public funding and eliminate its tax-exempt status. No one can tell me that the Mormon Church with its billions in tithing income, which is used to buy cattle ranches and build $5 billion shopping malls, should be exempt from taxation.
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Re: Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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Conservatives like Brewer try to make it sound that Planned Parenthood is only about abortions.


They concentrate on that yes.

This is completely untrue.


Correct. Planned Parenthood is also all about sexualizing children; getting them to experiment with sex, encouraging children to have sex with adults, and bypassing parents in their attempt to deliver this message. Our community recently expunged Planned Parenthood from the school curriculum.

Of course abortion is enough to damn them. Other services could be provided without it. Educate yourself.

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Panopticon wrote:The irony is that Brewer would probably scream bloody murder if the Feds decided to quite supporting religion with public funding and eliminate its tax-exempt status. No one can tell me that the Mormon Church with its billions in tithing income, which is used to buy cattle ranches and build $5 billion shopping malls, should be exempt from taxation.


I wonder how much tithing is used by the church to pay its lobbyists?
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I liked this. Not safe for work. Not nudity but a drawing.

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Just struck me tonight, exactly what makes a 12 year old boy in Mormonism more powerful than any woman.

The GOP has been working hard lately to erode the rights of women - all under the guise of Christianity.
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Re: Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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Conservatives like Brewer try to make it sound that Planned Parenthood is only about abortions. This is completely untrue. Among Planned Parenthood's many services include cancer screenings, birth control, vaccinations, sexual health education, and health counseling.


Yes, just as Pablo Escobar built parks, medical clinics, and educational facilities for the poor peasants that harvested his coca. "Birth control," "sexual health education," and " "health counseling" are simply code words for various programs that are a part of the anti-natalist ideology that animates Planned Parenthood and allied institutions throughout the world.

What is the likely result if Planned Parenthood is forced to scale services like birth control and sex education, which are frequently used by low income people? More pregancies and more abortions!


This argument is rapidly moving toward a clinic in logical fallacy. So, to avoid a long, drawn out surgical dismantling of the above paragraph, I'll just say that this argument has no knees, and cannot stand up on its own. The way to avoid more pregnancies and more abortions is to live and respect the Law of Chastity and the proper boundaries, limits, and conditions under which human sexual activity is legitimate, optimum, and conducive to a healthy, viable social order.

Brewer needs to remember that Roe v. Wade is still the law of the land. All abortions with which Planned Parenthood is involved are legal. This is simply a blatant attempt to legislate Christian morality.


And Roe was a blatant attempt to legislate the counter-morality of the Anointed. Roe is bad law, period, and never had any business in the federal courts at all. It should be overturned and the entire question sent to the 50 states for a thorough hashing out on a state by state basis.

The irony is that Brewer would probably scream bloody murder if the Feds decided to quite supporting religion with public funding and eliminate its tax-exempt status.


The federal government does not support religion. Religion supports itself, and always has. With or without tax exemption, religion would still exist in fundamentally its present form in America regardless.
Secondly, I cannot for the life of me see any logical analogy between government funding (which means the tax monies of countless people who disagree vehemently with Planned Parenthood as a matter of conscience) of abortion as a method of birth control (the use of taxes for a specific and highly ideological purpose) and the exempting of an institution from taxation. I don't pay for the Catholic church's activities, but I do pay for a vast ocean of lifestyle abortions that are, as a matter of principle, morally obnoxious in character.

No one can tell me that the Mormon Church with its billions in tithing income, which is used to buy cattle ranches and build $5 billion shopping malls, should be exempt from taxation.


The Church is. The Church's profit making economic activities, under other corporate names/designations, are not. ZCMI doesn't pay taxes?
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bcspace wrote:


Planned Parenthood is also all about sexualizing children; getting them to experiment with sex, encouraging children to have sex with adults, and bypassing parents in their attempt to deliver this message. Our community recently expunged Planned Parenthood from the school curriculum.


This is an egregious and immoral calumny.
I should think that Shades risks a lot by allowing this.

It is also drooling idiocy.
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Re: Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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Tarski wrote:
bcspace wrote:
Planned Parenthood is also all about sexualizing children; getting them to experiment with sex, encouraging children to have sex with adults, and bypassing parents in their attempt to deliver this message. Our community recently expunged Planned Parenthood from the school curriculum.


This is an egregious and immoral calumny.
I should think that Shades risks a lot by allowing this.

It is also drooling idiocy.


Yeah, but it's just old bcspace. He can't help it.
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Re: Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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Tarski wrote:
bcspace wrote:
Planned Parenthood is also all about sexualizing children; getting them to experiment with sex, encouraging children to have sex with adults, and bypassing parents in their attempt to deliver this message. Our community recently expunged Planned Parenthood from the school curriculum.


This is an egregious and immoral calumny.
I should think that Shades risks a lot by allowing this.

It is also drooling idiocy.



Two possibilities here: you could either be a drooling idiotic liar, or a drooling, idiotic ignoramus. As normal for me, I would prefer ignorance, and even vacuous ignorance, to willful mendacity, so I'll go along with that here until further notice. Planned Parenthood has been caught red handed peddling explicit sex ed to young teens and pre-teens, and you can drool over it all you'd like (and some here probably will).

Here's just one of the materials with which PP has been recently associated (in this case, with the Girl Scouts of America, a group the Left has now thoroughly subverted and corrupted) which was handed out at a "no adults allowed" session of the yearly U.N. Commission on the Status of Women meeting (2010). The World Association of Girl Scouts and Girl Guides (another leftist group associated with the American Girl Scouts but which is global in scope) were all in bed for the fun.

http://www.ippf.org/NR/rdonlyres/B4462D ... thyHot.pdf

This is just the tip of the Kinseyan iceberg, however, as the Girls Scouts of America are partnered with the U.N.'s other anti-natalist/adversary culture groups, such as the UNFPA

At one point, Kathy Cloninger, CEO of the Girl Scouts of America, made an appearance on NBC’s “Today Show” and openly admitted the relationship between the Girl Scouts and PP.


We partner with many organizations. We have relationships with our church communities, with YWCAs, and with Planned Parenthood organizations across the country, to bring information-based sex education programs to girls.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZKiQub0ZnA


Here's what we're dealing with, as the Last Days wind down; we pull the mask off of the CEO of the Girl Scouts of America, and we see:

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Droopy wrote:
At one point, Kathy Cloninger, CEO of the Girl Scouts of America, made an appearance on NBC’s “Today Show” and openly admitted the relationship between the Girl Scouts and PP.


So what? Planned parenthood is a benign organization.

Also, you're a paranoid nutty nut when it comes to sex also. Go become a nun or something.
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Re: Arizona bans funding of Planned Parenthood

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"We partner with many organizations. We have relationships with our church communities, with YWCAs, and with Planned Parenthood organizations across the country, to bring information-based sex education programs to girls."

Good, good, and good.
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