Best articles that show people can be born gay?

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Makes me wonder if "the Church" has commissioned Bradshaw to work on a chemical that children (maybe even embryos) in early human development can be inoculated with so that they do not develop a same gender sexual orientation. I could see the Church moving beyond Skinner behavorialism into chemical alteration methods to achieve the 'desired' results.


No, this is the realm of the Left, to which the Church is wholly opposed. I hardly think the Church is in for the kind of coercive thought washing implicit in a number of initiatives that have come out of the Left in recent decades, such as "sensitivity" training or "diversity workshops" for the politically and culturally incorrect, any more than for Skinnerian behaviorism, for which I have never noted any affinity thus far.
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Droopy wrote:any more than for Skinnerian behaviorism, for which I have never noted any affinity thus far.
Lucky you never had the electrodes attached.

Max Ford McBride's Ph.D. dissertation in psychology documents his use of electric shock aversion therapy at BYU, Affect of Visual Stimulation Electric Shock Therapy,@ Ph.D., BYU 1976.

The dissertation is listed in BYU's online catalog. Hard copy is available from UMI http://il.proquest.com/brand/umi.shtml

Facsimiles of some of the pages of the dissertation are available at the following link near the bottom of the site along with further information about electrical shocks being administered to Gay male BYU students at BYU. Footnotes are included.

http://connellodonovan.com/abom.html
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I'm proud to have been born gay. I've known what turns me on since day one. No one needs to tell me what turns me on. I just know. When I see it, I know. It's pure knowledge.

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lulu wrote:
Droopy wrote:any more than for Skinnerian behaviorism, for which I have never noted any affinity thus far.
Lucky you never had the electrodes attached.

Max Ford McBride's Ph.D. dissertation in psychology documents his use of electric shock aversion therapy at BYU, Affect of Visual Stimulation Electric Shock Therapy,@ Ph.D., BYU 1976.

The dissertation is listed in BYU's online catalog. Hard copy is available from UMI http://il.proquest.com/brand/umi.shtml

Facsimiles of some of the pages of the dissertation are available at the following link near the bottom of the site along with further information about electrical shocks being administered to Gay male BYU students at BYU. Footnotes are included.

http://connellodonovan.com/abom.html



blah, blah, blah. This is ancient history of little importance and even less grist for great swelling cries of outrage. This has been hashed out in this forum and at the MDDB for years on end, and its a tempest in a teapot. I hate to say it, but...

Move along, nothing to see here.
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Droopy wrote:any more than for Skinnerian behaviorism, for which I have never noted any affinity thus far.
lulu wrote:Lucky you never had the electrodes attached.

Max Ford McBride's Ph.D. dissertation in psychology documents his use of electric shock aversion therapy at BYU, Affect of Visual Stimulation Electric Shock Therapy,@ Ph.D., BYU 1976.

The dissertation is listed in BYU's online catalog. Hard copy is available from UMI http://il.proquest.com/brand/umi.shtml

Facsimiles of some of the pages of the dissertation are available at the following link near the bottom of the site along with further information about electrical shocks being administered to Gay male BYU students at BYU. Footnotes are included.

http://connellodonovan.com/abom.html
Droopy wrote:blah, blah, blah. This is ancient history of little importance and even less grist for great swelling cries of outrage. This has been hashed out in this forum and at the MDDB for years on end, and its a tempest in a teapot. I hate to say it, but...
Move along, nothing to see here.
"blah, blah, blah all you want Droopy, I'm powerless to stop you. And its not the worst prose you've posted here.

But I came within minutes of having this done to me and I'm well aware of its importance. It was no tempest in a teapot and would not have been for you either if you had been in my shoes. And had it been you, there very definitely would have been something to see regardless of on how many boards and for how long you want to claim it was discussed.

Those who don't learn from the past, repeat the past. But perhaps, informed, intellegent choice is not that important for you.

Mormonism was more than happy to use Skinnerism when it suited it purposes.

Do you think McBride got a big old woody when he cranked up the juice?

Would you, Droopy?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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