Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehlin?

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Re: Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehli

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I'm not at all sure what Danial means by this but...where are your answers to the points I made above about Southern slavery?

Don't try to slink away, Bluff. Put up, or, well, you know.
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Re: Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehli

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Droopy wrote:
I also watched the last of Dan Wotherspoon's interviews with Daniel Peterson and Daniel (in the 4th podcast in particular) showed the same kind of reasonableness and understanding that John shows with regards to troubling aspects of church history and the 'one true church' claims.



So you are here, for the record, claiming that Daniel Peterson does not accept the Church's claim that it is the "only true and living church" on earth?

Do you think he has a problem with that claim?

CFR.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gylaYQ04PIk

About 9 minutes in, on dealing with polyandry, and about 30 minutes in on dealing with 'one true church' claims.
Note I said that Daniel shows the same kind of reasonableness and understanding, I did NOT say that Daniel Peterson does not accept the Church's claim that it is the 'only true and living church', and am happy to clarify that, but he does so with humility and understanding. I loved this interview.
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OOps, someone has already linked to it. Sorry about that. I'm obviously not keeping up with the discussion.
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I did NOT say that Daniel Peterson does not accept the Church's claim that it is the 'only true and living church', and am happy to clarify that, but he does so with humility and understanding.


Most of us do too, Mary.

Until that course of action proves futile, as it commonly does in forums such as this among the kinds of people who tend to congregate in forums such as this.
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Droopy wrote:I'm not at all sure what Danial means by this but...where are your answers to the points I made above about Southern slavery?

Don't try to slink away, Bluff. Put up, or, well, you know.


Again, wrong thread. I think enslaving blacks is a racist practice. I understand that you disagree.
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Buffalo wrote:
Droopy wrote:I'm not at all sure what Danial means by this but...where are your answers to the points I made above about Southern slavery?

Don't try to slink away, Bluff. Put up, or, well, you know.


Again, wrong thread. I think enslaving blacks is a racist practice. I understand that you disagree.



No, not wrong thread, I'm just following you around and keeping tabs. I do see that you've raised another white flag there, however, so never mind.
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Re: Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehli

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RayAgostini wrote:I've had far, far, far more than 100 measly pages of personal criticism against me, examining every aspect of even my personal life (before stronger rules were in place), on this very board, going right back to the beginning. I don't think you were even here for the first year of it, Kish.

Time for some shut eye. Probably not a good idea to post after 14 hours on the road.


I don't seek to minimize your bad experiences on this board. I just personally do not find them anywhere nearly as traumatic as having a print journal that serves as a semi-official outlet of your own Church ostentatiously slam you for 100 pages. It is not about the volume alone, Ray, and I think you know that. It is about the nature of the venue, and its connection with the leadership of the LDS Church--a connection that is closer than ever before, obviously.

It seems, however, that you see some kind of equivalence between this little discussion board of private opinion and the Church-supported and authorized apologetics of their print journals. That is where the two of us differ greatly.
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Re: Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehli

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Doctor Scratch wrote:I'm still very curious about what Scott Gordon said in response to John's "warning."

Meanwhile, we have been met with a stone wall of silence from Dr. Peterson, who instead has opted to write blog posts about how much he enjoys hearing vulgarity and profanity (even though he himself is too much of a milquetoast chicken to actually ever use expletives). It's psychologically fascinating to behold.


No response from Scott as of April 14th. Still hoping one comes.
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Droopy wrote:

No, not wrong thread, I'm just following you around and keeping tabs. I do see that you've raised another white flag there, however, so never mind.


That can't be it, because I promptly responded on the actual relevant thread. Middle of the day intoxication seems more likely in your case.
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Re: Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehli

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mormonstories wrote:No response from Scott as of April 14th. Still hoping one comes.


What warning?

And

What's the nature of this "hit piece"? How do we know about it? It doesn't seem like anyone has seen it, right?
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