Sexual Dysfunction in Mormon Marriages

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SteelHead wrote: Mark E Mark Peterson boasting he has never seen his wife naked.

Srsly?

I mean, S E R I O U S L Y ???!!!???!!!

Please, if you can, cite this here. I have simply GOT to have this quote. O.M.G.!

Teachings that couples should refrain from sex when not trying to conceive, so as to overcome the naturalan.

I've heard this, but I don't remember ever reading an actual quote. Again, I would really like some cites to pull out when some of my relatives claim the church has never taught things like this.
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In our stake, there was some kind of stir, some talk going around. I was young and naïve, but learned it had to do with whether oral sex was OK among married couples. Apparently the question was raised in prior weeks/months, and bishops and the Stake Pres were attempting to give counsel. The Regional rep of the 12 got wind of this, and guess what? They immediately scheduled Mark E. Peterson to address our Stake at the next Stake conference!

It was Sunday, May 25th, 1975. They quietly scheduled a meeting for all ADULTS, to be held 3 hours prior to regular Stake conference. I showed up early, and it was amazing, the parking lot was totally full at 6:30am, with cars parked clear down the street. The chapel was packed to overflowing.

During this "meeting", actually a dictator-style lecture by Elder Peterson, it was said very sternly that oral sex is an abomination, and had no place in marital relations. wow, you could have heard a pin drop. Peterson wielded a mighty, authoritative presence. And he was a bit cranky. He seemed displeased that this was even an isssue!

He also spoke during our regular conference meeting. A long, boring tirade. He somewhat carried this "purity in marriage" theme over. I clearly remember him saying "you know, I've been married to my wife for 44 years, and never once have seen her body uncovered". Again there was silence. What a joke; implicit in his remarks was the idea that sex is ONLY for procreation, and the visual enjoyment of bodies is dirty, not beautiful.


The above is of questionable validity.

God made sex, but not for entertainment. It was provided for a divinely appointed act of creation in which we, to this extent, become co-creators with him. – Mark E. Peterson, April 1969 General Conference


This (above) is in a conference report.

One more for good measure:

“There is some belief, too much I fear, that sex desire is planted in us solely for the pleasures of full gratification; that the begetting of children is only an unfortunate incident. The direct opposite is the fact. Sex desire was planted in us in order to be sure that bodies would be begotten to house the spirits; the pleasures of gratification of the desire is an incident, not the primary purpose of the desire.... As to sex in marriage, the necessary treatise on that for Latter-day Saints can be written in two sentences: Remember the prime purpose of sex desire is to beget children. Sex gratification must be had at that hazard.”

- J. Reuben Clark, Conference Report, October 1949, pp. 194-195


I'll keep going:
~Spencer W. Kimball "The union of the sexes, husband and wife (and only husband and wife), was for the principal purpose of bringing children into the world. Sexual experiences were never intended by the Lord to be a mere plaything or merely to satisfy passions and lusts."
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"There are some people who have said that behind the bedroom doors anything goes. That is not true and the Lord would not condone it."


This one is great:
"There are some who will tell you that when you marry you get the green light on intimate behavior with your spouse, but such teaching is another of Satan’s lies. Of course, after you marry, the Lord commands you to consummate your intimate, personal relationship and to cleave unto each other. That physical relationship is sacred and holy. It is part of becoming one, wholly and fully united in heart and soul. It is part of building your eternal family. It is pleasing before the Lord; but—and this is a very important qualifier—it must be established in love and kindness, in patience and unselfishness.

Your intimate relationship is just that—a relationship. It is something you create together. Both husband and wife should experience it as joyous and fulfilling. It must be established, therefore, without exploitation, without abuse of any kind, and without self-indulgence. Satan would have you give way to the natural man in your marriage—the man of passion, of carnal desire, of gratification of every impulse and appetite. But remember, the natural man is an enemy to God. You simply cannot give way to the natural man and ever hope to have a union that is holy, a love that is eternal and pure, or a marriage that is blessed and sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise. Thus, restraint, control, and bridling your passions are just as important after marriage as before."

President Kim B. Clark and Sue L. Clark

Brigham Young University–Idaho Devotional
January 9, 2007
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SteelHead wrote: Mark E Mark Peterson boasting he has never seen his wife naked.



I've never seen his wife naked, either.
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Hades wrote:In the real world (I live outside of Utah), I hear about porn, but I don't hear anything about porn addiction. Is that a Mormon phenomenon?


Porn is a multi-billion dollar industry. It didn't get that way from people looking at it once and moving on. It is a multi-billion industry because like drugs, it is addictive.
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Many people are sexually dysfunctional these days. It is a common problem. One reason for this is the amount of magazines telling couples how to do it and what they need to be feeling when they do it. Porn is also a problem in the bedroom. Poor guys think that porn is how sex should be in reality and end up a little dissatisfied when their bedroom is not a porn movie set.

Not to mention the financial problems that people are experiencing and how this influences the bedroom. Then we have stress, anxiety, sexual dysfunction in both partners etc.

All perspective LDS marriage partners need to have a good sex talk before marriage. It is important to be on the same page and be honest with each other. A Mormon lay can help in the beginning. Chemistry is important. But best not to be surprised on the honeymoon.
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Now in marriages that are not LDS...many couples live together and actually believe that they know each other. But then, they marry and the sex life falls like autumn leaves from a vibrant tree. The 'lust' feeling goes away because sex is now official. Studies have shown that couples that have lived together for years, usually end in divorce not long after the marriage. Something changes. My take: the certificate enters the bedroom and other parts of the relationship.
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Morley wrote:
SteelHead wrote: Mark E Mark Peterson boasting he has never seen his wife naked.


I've never seen his wife naked, either.


I have. Hawt. :cool:
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just me wrote:Best.Thread.EVAH!


The masturbation thread from the telestial kingdom was better. No sex thread will ever top that one. :wink:
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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why me wrote:Many people are sexually dysfunctional these days. ...

All perspective LDS marriage partners need to have a good sex talk before marriage. It is important to be on the same page and be honest with each other. A Mormon lay can help in the beginning. Chemistry is important. But best not to be surprised on the honeymoon.


When I was a teenager, I thought "oral sex" was when you talked about having sex.
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