The Light of Christ

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Re: The Light of Christ

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gdemetz wrote:If you had the Spirit, whoops, never mind that! One is written ion the D&C as a revelation, and the others are not.


So if it's not in the D&C it's not from God. Really?
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I didn't say that! The others were not revelations from God and were never claimed to be such!
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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:One way is by reading.

So, I read the General Conference transcripts - how do I tell which is from God and which is just man speaking?



Okay, If you didn't say that it has to be in the D&C to be from God, this question remains unanswered.
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Re: The Light of Christ

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The others were never even claimed to be the revelation from God which exactly named His church! The one in D&C is such!
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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:One way is by reading.

So, I read the General Conference transcripts - how do I tell which is from God and which is just man speaking?


Bump.

How do I tell which is from God?
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Re: The Light of Christ

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I think that you could perhaps assume that it is good advise and counsel to follow, etc., unless they are specifically stating that it is a doctrine of revelation, or quoting scripture.
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gdemetz wrote:I think that you could perhaps assume that it is good advise and counsel to follow, etc., unless they are specifically stating that it is a doctrine of revelation, or quoting scripture.


When was the last time a Conference speaker stated that what he was saying was a doctrine of revelation? Packer tried it last year I think, saying the the Proclamation on Marriage was revelation. But the Church edited that bit out when the talk was published in the Ensign and on-line because he was wrong.

I think it may have been 1978 - but even that wasn't a revelation, it was the reversal of a revelation that the Church now admits it doesn't know whether it was a revelation or not, nor when, where, how or why it came into being.

So since then, all Conference content including the Prophets words have just been 'good advice'?
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I think that it is fair to state that the proclamation was a revelation even though it was basically not a new one.
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gdemetz wrote:I think that it is fair to state that the proclamation was a revelation even though it was basically not a new one.


*Bong*

Not true.
The Proclamation On The Family is specifically NOT revelation.
It may be doctrinal, but it certainly isn't classed nor claimed as a revelation.
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No. It absolutely is a revelation, but it was not a new one as I stated. The doctrines which they referred to in the proclamation were revealed in this modern dispensation.
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