Wow, so where is GBH "I don't know that we believe that" in all of this?bcspace wrote:Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God. … He was once a man like us; … God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [1976], 345–46).
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Do Mormons still believe in a corporeal God the Father?
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"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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Wow, so where is GBH "I don't know that we believe that" in all of this?
Why do you selectively quote him?
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bcspace wrote:Why do you selectively quote him?Wow, so where is GBH "I don't know that we believe that" in all of this?
Because I didn't want to type the whole damn article over into a post?
Dude, it's a free country and the only thing you can't post on this board is a threat, so if you thing something more is appropriately part of the quote . . . post it.
Now I have to tell Tobin to shove it and then I'm going to bed.
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Joseph Smith taught that God the Father was mortal like us and did what Jesus Christ himself did. Most Mormons like bcspace fail to understand that. GBH is correct in that we should not teach that God the Father was merely a flawed man - instead, he was a Christ and savior for his generations. Christ followed his example when he did all he saw his Father do.lulu wrote:Wow, so where is GBH "I don't know that we believe that" in all of this?bcspace wrote:Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God. … He was once a man like us; … God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [1976], 345–46).
http://www.LDS.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-47-exaltation?lang=eng
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Why do you selectively quote him?Because I didn't want to type the whole damn article over into a post?
No, it's because you have an agenda that can't stand the entire quote to be known.
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Tobin wrote:Joseph Smith taught that God the Father was mortal like us and did what Jesus Christ himself did. Most Mormons like bcspace fail to understand that. GBH is correct in that we should not teach that God the Father was merely a flawed man - instead, he was a Christ and savior for his generations. Christ followed his example when he did all he saw his Father do.
CFR Tobin and before I forget
Tobin wrote:And if you paid attention to the plan of salvation
Shove it.
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Go to bed lulu. You get quite irritable when you don't get enough sleep. by the way - bcspace just quoted JFS. But I'll underline the part you failed to read or comprehend.lulu wrote:Tobin wrote:Joseph Smith taught that God the Father was mortal like us and did what Jesus Christ himself did. Most Mormons like bcspace fail to understand that. GBH is correct in that we should not teach that God the Father was merely a flawed man - instead, he was a Christ and savior for his generations. Christ followed his example when he did all he saw his Father do.
CFR Tobin and before I forgetTobin wrote:And if you paid attention to the plan of salvation
Shove it.
Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God. … He was once a man like us; … God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [1976], 345–46).
http://www.LDS.org/manual/gospel-princi ... n?lang=eng
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lulu wrote:Why or why not?
CFR's?
OCP's?
There is nothing more fundamental to Mormonism than a corporeal God of "flesh and bone". That belief is interwoven into most of the doctrines and into the very cosmology of Mormonism itself.
If I cared much about Mormonism or its beliefs, I might try to scare up a few CFR's but my apathy stops me cold.
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bcspace wrote:Why do you selectively quote him?
lulu wrote:Because I didn't want to type the whole damn article over into a post?
bcspace wrote:No, it's because you have an agenda that can't stand the entire quote to be known.
And that keeps you from posting the part of the quote you think should be included exactly how . . . . ?
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Tchild wrote:lulu wrote:Why or why not?
CFR's?
OCP's?
There is nothing more fundamental to Mormonism than a corporeal God of "flesh and bone". That belief is interwoven into most of the doctrines and into the very cosmology of Mormonism itself.
If I cared much about Mormonism or its beliefs, I might try to scare up a few CFR's but my apathy stops me cold.
My ignorance and your apathy

But if you strip it back, the only thing that is canonical is section 130. The rest is just, how would Elder Holland put it, folklore. If it suited the mainstreaming purpose, correlation would drop the TPJS quote from the Institute Manual in the blink of an eye, just like the new member manual is being heavily revised fir Sunday School to get some of the man to God stuff out.
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"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.