BartBurk wrote: He was a minor at the time -- why would it bug you? This is a hit piece. I expect all kinds of stories like this to be drug out during the campaign, but we never get real stories about Obama's youth. Maybe they should do a little more investigative reporting there. Does the fact Obama was doing drugs in high school and college bother you? Some drugs can cause permanent brain damage ...
I don't like Obama. But how does Obama's behavior excuse Mitt's? I understand kids do stupid things, and we grow older and mature, but Mitt's response is discouraging. He said "if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that." I have a knee jerk negative reaction to that type of apology. He also claims to not remember the incident, yet everyone else involved, including his minions, remember it vividly and are still bothered by it today. One of the witnesses to the assault ran into the victim at an airport decades later and apologized for not doing more to help. He never forgot the incident, yet it must not have been that big of a deal to Mitt. I wish he would have said something like, "I deeply regret my behavior in my youth. What I did was wrong. I believe I am better person today." Don't say you are sorry people are offended.
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Bond James Bond wrote:The next time I give some bleached blonde kid a forced haircut or put my dog on a roof for a drive across international borders you can question my moral compass.
I can question it for many things you do, I'm sure. There's far more than a few teen-age jerky things that people do in life that are an embarrassment.
Love ya tons, Stem
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Bond James Bond wrote: Nah. Had to go to France and serve out a time share on a chateau or something.
Well at least by doing so he avoided killing anyone...
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Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Bond James Bond wrote: Nah. Had to go to France and serve out a time share on a chateau or something.
Well at least by doing so he avoided killing anyone...
He would have had a heck of a time keeping his hair in order in that humidity too.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Buffalo wrote: Do you consider it bullying to stand up to bullies?
That's called kicking against the pricks, which is a sin. Sin leads to apostacy, apostacy leads to posting on mormondiscussions.com, and people who post on this board are bullies. Therefore, standing up to bullies leads to bullying.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
BartBurk wrote:I don't like Obama. But how does Obama's behavior excuse Mitt's? I understand kids do stupid things, and we grow older and mature, but Mitt's response is discouraging. He said "if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that." I have a knee jerk negative reaction to that type of apology. He also claims to not remember the incident, yet everyone else involved, including his minions, remember it vividly and are still bothered by it today. One of the witnesses to the assault ran into the victim at an airport decades later and apologized for not doing more to help. He never forgot the incident, yet it must not have been that big of a deal to Mitt. I wish he would have said something like, "I deeply regret my behavior in my youth. What I did was wrong. I believe I am better person today." Don't say you are sorry people are offended.
Which makes me question if we can believe the people (mostly Obama supporters) quoted in the article. And I understand the person supposedly involved is dead. I never said Obama's behavior excused Mitt's, but if we're going to go back to what people did in high school we need to go back on Obama's too. Of course I never did anything in high school that I regret doing. Grade school, yes, high school, no.
I want to see the birth certificate.