jskains wrote:Here is another cool fact. I don't chase other people's religion to claim them a fraud.
*GASP*
JMS
Here's another cool fact... you continually dodge criticism while claiming others make fun of your religion. You're an imposter who can't acknowledge fact. I'll make fun of you just for being ignorant of the data you refuse to acknowledge.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
Bond James Bond wrote:I further call for the thread in question to be closed to all other posters so that the debate can go it's own route. All posts being moved with offending posters being suspended for 24 hrs for failure to pay attention to the special rules in that special debate thread so Josh and Kevin can debate without distraction.
J, I don't understand why you simply don't ignore the posts that you feel treat you poorly and respond to Chris, who offered a well thought out response and treated you with the respect you feel you deserve.
brade wrote:J, I don't understand why you simply don't ignore the posts that you feel treat you poorly and respond to Chris, who offered a well thought out response and treated you with the respect you feel you deserve.
Simple. Unfortunately Josh is a hypocrite. I find his posts filled with as much venom as anyone else here. For some reason he doesn't seem to see it. He even directs it at people like Chris who has treated him so well and has been trying to engage him. He never had a real response he was working on and is using other peoples insults as an excuse to get out of a discussion he knows will not go well for him. I find his behavior shameful and dishonest. The only way he can redeem himself is to apologize to Chris, and then try to engage his arguments. He doesn't have any problem engaging all the non-substantive posts, so why is he ignoring the few substantive ones?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Doctor Scratch wrote:I don't think I've ever seen you even honestly attempt to engage in serious dialogue, Jskains. It's just like Sophocles has said: you tend to zero in on posts that allow you to avoid the issue and to take offense. Either that, or your posts turn into circular potifications ("What would it be like if I was prophet of the LDS Church?"), or reflections on your own views.
CaliforniaKid has given you a terrific opening here, and you've ignored it. My bet is that you haven't even read his article. Either that, or you didn't understand it. C'est la vie, Monsieur Potato-head. Your Yukon-Gold-eqsue dome seems incapable of absorbing and/or grappling with this sort of thing.
DCP suffers from the same affliction.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
jskains wrote: Awww, Poor Kevin. Had to get some attention by jumping onto the pile and spew the same thing already said.
Look, I get you got in bed with Satan and decided to turn your time and talent to hate. I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for the people who have to be around you. I am sure you are happily trying to destroy faith and families with your rhetoric. You are lost, and I feel sorry for you.
JMS
Talk is cheap.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
I thought Schryver and Gee were going to be publishing a paper on this scroll-length issue. Did it ever come out? If not, has anyone heard when it will be coming out?
"I do not want you to think that I am very righteous, for I am not." Joseph Smith (History of the Church 5:401)
Carton wrote:I thought Schryver and Gee were going to be publishing a paper on this scroll-length issue. Did it ever come out? If not, has anyone heard when it will be coming out?
The whole argument of the scroll length in defending the Book of Abraham is like talking about how much toilet paper is on your roll in the bathroom. I'm serious about that. Not trying to be funny at all. The scroll length is a dead issue as far as defending Book of Abraham truth claims. It's a distraction put out by the dishonest apologists, a bottomless rabbit hole, a red-dead fish, and a complete waste of time.
Just look at the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 and you get the feeling that scroll length really doesn't matter. It just gives the faithful something to cling to while they avoid the real issues.
