Decent Post on Proof and Evidence at Sic et Non

[_RayAgostini]

Because when Joseph Smith was criminally charged with being a glass-looker, it proved that the seer stone really worked! Everything proves that the Church is true!

Funny how you and Keller can look at the same thing, yet come to different conclusions. He is, of course, "deluded".

[_Darth J]

Because when Joseph Smith was criminally charged with being a glass-looker, it proved that the seer stone really worked! Everything proves that the Church is true!

Funny how you and Keller can look at the same thing, yet come to different conclusions. He is, of course, "deluded".

Thanks for sharing your belief that 19th-century American folk magic really worked, Ray. I'm not going to bother asking what your basis is for saying so.

[_RayAgostini]

Thanks for sharing your belief that 19th-century American folk magic really worked, Ray. I'm not going to bother asking what your basis is for saying so.

I wouldn't grace you with a reply anyway, my pseudoskeptical fiend.

[_Darth J]

Thanks for sharing your belief that 19th-century American folk magic really worked, Ray. I'm not going to bother asking what your basis is for saying so.

I wouldn't grace you with a reply anyway, my pseudoskeptical fiend.

Arthur C. Clarke said that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Maybe Joseph Smith got his seer stone from a UFO. You never know!

[_RayAgostini]

Arthur C. Clarke said that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Maybe Joseph Smith got his seer stone from a UFO. You never know!

Looks like you need something to play with. Here ya go.

Spend the next six months spitting your dummy over that. All good entertainment. You're really angry at Mormonism, aren't you?

[_Darth J]

Arthur C. Clarke said that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Maybe Joseph Smith got his seer stone from a UFO. You never know!

Looks like you need something to play with. Here ya go.

Spend the next six months spitting your dummy over that. All good entertainment. You're really angry at Mormonism, aren't you?

Just to clarify, Ray, when a person specifically says he cannot eliminate the possibility that space aliens exist, but he has not seen any convincing evidence to make him believe that, he's a psedoskeptic, right?

You never explained why you're not a Scientologist, Ray. How can you be sure that Scientology isn't true?

For that matter, how do you know that pseudoskepticism isn't true?

[_RayAgostini]

You never explained why you're not a Scientologist, Ray. How can you be sure that Scientology isn't true?

Did I ever explain why I'm not a Mormon? Oh, I forgot.

I may be back later if I'm in the mood for mind games. Enjoy your board convulsions in the meantime anyway.

The morning breaks, the shadows flee;
Lo, Zion’s standard is unfurled!
The dawning of a brighter day,
Majestic rises on the world.
The clouds of error disappear
Before the rays of truth divine;
The glory bursting from afar,
Wide o’er the nations soon will shine.

(Hope that doesn't send shivers down your spine)

[_Chap]

The clouds of error disappear
Before the rays of truth divine;

Yup. but not the way the writer of those words was expecting.

[_Darth J]

Is it possible to make Pascal's Wager its own religion, as well as a branch of science?

[_Doctor Scratch]

Why am I getting dragged into this discussion? What is your main point, exactly, Ray? As I understand it, your present sympathy from Mormonism is based on two personal things: (1) because a critic insulted one of your kids, and (2) because you felt "moved" by DCP's interview on (of all things) "Mormon Stories."

Is there more to it than that? I don't really know what you're arguing here, exactly.