M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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why me wrote:
MsJack wrote:So, in other words, why me has never taken a Mormon apologist to task for bad behavior. Shocking.


Well, here is a sample of bad behavior on the catholic forum or is it? What do you think?

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.p ... 386&page=6

Would you find such mocking on MDD? The Mormon poster will soon be banned. Trust me.

Now compare it to this thread about Islam:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.p ... 025&page=2

Notice the respectful tone. What is unfortunate is that the Mormon threads are started or hijacked by the Mormon haters. Also, I do believe that the posters are on notice to treat Islam with respect. I wonder why? If I remember correctly, I wrote the mods about the dangers of treating islam with disrespect a few years ago since the board can be seen all over the world and there was no reason to risk a fatwah against Catholic Answers. I think that someone was listening to me. But against the Mormons...it is open season.

My point there was simple: treat the Mormons and their religion with respect. One can disagree without mocking the Mormon temple and other beliefs. Have a dialogue and not a bash. I also told them that the catholic church is not about bashing other faiths. That is not the spirit of catholicism. I also defended Mormon history by using catholic history as an example: my premise was simple, all churches have skeletons in their closet since no human being is perfect. Do catholics have a right to bash Mormons with their history knowing the hístory of the catholic church?


I'm still waiting for your reference where you took Daniel to task.

I"m going to jump to your last statement. Catholics admit and accept their history. Mormons deny and change theirs.
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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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beastie wrote:
Gee. So when it's LDS, it's their own business and the mods take care of it.

But when it's nonLDS, you appoint yourself some sort of meta-moderator and expect others to do the same.


This is not exactly true at all. Lets take you for example: how many times have you and others used light cotton when referring to my posts? Quite often. I have not mocked anyone in such a way. Nor have I been personal with posters through name calling as have been done by others on this forum. As Ray has also noticed, I have taken a lot of personal crap on this forum. I disagree with the critics and I voice that disagreement. Nothing more.
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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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hobo1512 wrote:
I'm still waiting for your reference where you took Daniel to task.



Unlike you, I don't keep track of my posts or when I made them. It was a while ago. I have had no reason to do so now because he is not posting here anymore. But that hasn't stopped certain posters using their informants to spy on him.
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hobo1512 wrote: Catholics admit and accept their history. Mormons deny and change theirs.


If Mormons on MDD were speaking about the catholic church as you guys on the catholic forum are speaking about Mormonism all your friends would be cutting and pasting such quotations from MDD to use against Mormonism as a symbol of what the Mormon church thinks about catholicism. There would be no end to it.

Most catholics are also clueless about their history. And I haven't seen the catholic church come out with a comprehensive book of their history either. Does the catholic church hide their history by not having such a book?

Here is the point: catholics have no reason to bash and mock Mormonism when we consider just how many children have been abused in the catholic faith. And the numbers of adults that are still suffering from it. The antimormon catholics need to leave well enough alone with their high and mighty attitude unless they want their own history to come up from the ashes.

And that was my point on that forum. Speak with the Mormons with respect and dignity and have a conversation through peace and humbleness. Have a dialogue and understand that when a catholic mocks or bashes a Mormon's faith, the Mormon will react and attempt to defend what they believe.
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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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why me wrote:
hobo1512 wrote:
I'm still waiting for your reference where you took Daniel to task.



Unlike you, I don't keep track of my posts or when I made them. It was a while ago. I have had no reason to do so now because he is not posting here anymore. But that hasn't stopped certain posters using their informants to spy on him.

Ah, so it is an imaginary post.

Just like your imaginary nun and priest friends.

Your credibility just keeps increasing and increasing.... :lol:

Here is a link to most of your posts at CAF. You know as well as I, that some of them were deleted for being obnoxious or insulting.

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966491

Here is Z's

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966503

See how easy that is.
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hobo1512 wrote: ...

Here is a link to most of your posts at CAF. You know as well as I, that some of them were deleted for being obnoxious or insulting.

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966491

Here is Z's

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966503

See how easy that is.


They both seem to have been deleted. Can you post the originals?
Zadok:
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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why me wrote:
hobo1512 wrote: Catholics admit and accept their history. Mormons deny and change theirs.


If Mormons on MDD were speaking about the catholic church as you guys on the catholic forum are speaking about Mormonism all your friends would be cutting and pasting such quotations from MDD to use against Mormonism as a symbol of what the Mormon church thinks about catholicism. There would be no end to it.

Most catholics are also clueless about their history. And I haven't seen the catholic church come out with a comprehensive book of their history either. Does the catholic church hide their history by not having such a book?

Here is the point: catholics have no reason to bash and mock Mormonism when we consider just how many children have been abused in the catholic faith. And the numbers of adults that are still suffering from it. The antimormon catholics need to leave well enough alone with their high and mighty attitude unless they want their own history to come up from the ashes.

And that was my point on that forum. Speak with the Mormons with respect and dignity and have a conversation through peace and humbleness. Have a dialogue and understand that when a catholic mocks or bashes a Mormon's faith, the Mormon will react and attempt to defend what they believe.

LOL,and yet another diversion.

Whether a everyday Catholic knows the history or not, the fact is, the Church does not hide it or rewrite it like the Mormon leadership does.

As far as the abuse scandal, maybe you should do a little more research. The Mormon church has had, and still has it's share.

Also, you know an individual is more likely to be abused by a family member than by a member of the clergy right?

Also, sex abuse among protestant clergy is a much higher rate than the Catholic church according to the top insurers of churches.

But hey, don't let facts get in your way. What am I saying...facts have never affected you.
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MsJack wrote:
I personally can't think of any recent examples of Mormon apologists bashing Catholicism specifically. Mormons have pretty much steered away from anti-Catholicism after years of saying the Catholic church was the Great and Abominable Church and the church of the devil and whatnot.


If Mormon posters were mocking the catholics as the catholics who are antimormon mock the LDS faith as they do on the catholic forum, you would be outraged about the Mormons and their behavior and you would most likely blame Mormon teaching. And maybe rightly so.

I remember hearing about the great abominable church when it was being discussed in the seventies. I remember Mormons saying that it may be the catholic church. But I also heard that it may be communism. But these were members and not the GAs.
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We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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Chap wrote:
hobo1512 wrote: ...

Here is a link to most of your posts at CAF. You know as well as I, that some of them were deleted for being obnoxious or insulting.

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966491

Here is Z's

http://forums.catholic.com/search.php?searchid=10966503

See how easy that is.


They both seem to have been deleted. Can you post the originals?

Hmmm...they worked for me.

These are the links to their profiles. Let's see if that works.

I will also post links to a couple of threads they participated in, just in case.

Profiles:

Zerinus http://forums.catholic.com/member.php?u=36350

Whine Me http://forums.catholic.com/member.php?u=45206

They both posted in this thread.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=224517

If you can't access their profiles directly, you can at least see their posts in the threads. Then click on their name and it will give you options to see all of their posts.
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Re: M&G Lays Some Serious Smack Down on Why Me

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hobo1512 wrote:LOL,and yet another diversion.

Whether a everyday Catholic knows the history or not, the fact is, the Church does not hide it or rewrite it like the Mormon leadership does.

As far as the abuse scandal, maybe you should do a little more research. The Mormon church has had, and still has it's share.

Also, you know an individual is more likely to be abused by a family member than by a member of the clergy right?

Also, sex abuse among protestant clergy is a much higher rate than the Catholic church according to the top insurers of churches.

But hey, don't let facts get in your way. What am I saying...facts have never affected you.


Let me try this again: all organizations have skeletons in their closet. No reason to bring out the skeletons out of others unless that organization would allow their own skeletons to come out. On your favorite forum such tactics are not allowed.

What is allowed:

Mock and bash the Mormons, don't listen to what the Mormons are sayings, and continue the attack. This is the logic of the few antimormons who are catholic on that forum who dominate the 'discussion' about Mormonism. Now if you and your friends can adopt the tone as on the muslim thread, much could be accomplished.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith


We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
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