Darth J wrote:Simon Belmont, since you just reflexively rush to defend the patrons of your rent boy services without even bothering to see what they wrote on their blogs, here's how I know Schryver quoted that statement approvingly:
And, as any reader can see, William Schryver was writing about this man on his blog. This accomplished New Orleans piano player was giving a sentiment which was his opinion - not Schryver's and not DCP's. In Darth J's knee-jerk reflexiveness to jump on any DCP/Schryver hate bandwagon, he has become very very lazy. He didn't even attribute the quote to anyone, hoping that readers of this thread would just assume Schryver or DCP said it.
Chap wrote:Indeed. It is absolutely obvious that Schryver in no way condones the distasteful Uncle-Tom "Thanks for slavery, Lord!" sentiments that he writes into his blog. His distaste is blindingly obvious:
No. He called him a "great man". If I believe someone to be a great person, that doesn't mean I have to agree with every single opinion or sentiment they possess.
Darth J wrote:Simon Belmont, since you just reflexively rush to defend the patrons of your rent boy services without even bothering to see what they wrote on their blogs, here's how I know Schryver quoted that statement approvingly:
And, as any reader can see, William Schryver was writing about this man on his blog. This accomplished New Orleans piano player was giving a sentiment which was his opinion - not Schryver's and not DCP's. In Darth J's knee-jerk reflexiveness to jump on any DCP/Schryver hate bandwagon, he has become very very lazy. He didn't even attribute the quote to anyone, hoping that readers of this thread would just assume Schryver of DCP quote.
No, Simon. As any reader can see, I assumed that people would actually read the blog at issue before commenting on what it says. And as any reader can plainly see, Schryver approved of the substance of what this man said about slavery. And as any reader can plainly see, whatever name "Simon Belmont" chooses to give his sock puppets, he only brings personal grudges and attempts to start pissing contests about ludicrous non-issues because he has nothing in substance to offer in defense of Joseph's magic polygamy cult or its modern corporate re-imaging.
And Simon Belmont/static/oxygenadam/Nibley'sGhost/Radex/Skywalker/etc., I am not interested in your inane chatter designed to distract people from saying things about your cherished beliefs that you can't address. But if, by some random chance, you ever happen to say something substantive, I will respond.
Chap wrote:Indeed. It is absolutely obvious that Schryver in no way condones the distasteful Uncle-Tom "Thanks for slavery, Lord!" sentiments that he writes into his blog. His distaste is blindingly obvious:
No. He called him a "great man". If I believe someone to be a great person, that doesn't mean I have to agree with every single opinion or sentiment they possess.
Gosh, that is a really amazing riposte. Whenever I want to distance myself from someone's opinion, I always begin by some kind of introduction like this:
Schryver wrote:Carl M. Franklin, PhD, my new friend from New Orleans, listened patiently to the patronizing arguments of his Yellow Dog Democrat friends, then breathed a sigh and commenced to deliver one of the most impressive and impassioned speeches I have heard in my entire life. His words were eloquent, articulate, and profoundly earnest. I recount them to the best of my recollection:
and I finish like this:
Schryver wrote:I stood and extended my hand to Dr. Franklin, who then stood himself and embraced me warmly.
"You are a great man Dr. Franklin, and I count myself fortunate to have made your acquaintance."
"And I yours."
That's non-committal neutrality the way I do it. You should see what I do when I really approve of something I quote!
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Darth J wrote:No, Simon. As any reader can see, I assumed that people would actually read the blog at issue before commenting on what it says. And as any reader can plainly see, Schryver approved of the substance of what this man said about slavery. And as any reader can plainly see, whatever name "Simon Belmont" chooses to give his sock puppets, he only brings personal grudges and attempts to start pissing contests about ludicrous non-issues because he has nothing in substance to offer in defense of Joseph's magic polygamy cult or its modern corporate re-imaging.
And Simon Belmont/static/oxygenadam/Nibley'sGhost/Radex/Skywalker/etc., I am not interested in your inane chatter designed to distract people from saying things about your cherished beliefs that you can't address. But if, by some random chance, you ever happen to say something substantive, I will respond.
I really don't care who you think I am. What you've done is participated in a very serious charge which has been shown to be wholly untrue. You disingenuously quoted someone unrelated to the title of the thread as if someone in the thread title said it. Neither did. Perhaps if you were honest, this would make sense, but that is obviously above you.
For example, using your methods, I could quote
I hate all Mormons
I can attribute that to you, since I didn't specifically cite you. Since I am currently replying to you, readers will believe I am quoting you. I expect that people will read the entire thread before reading this post!
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Chap wrote:Gosh, that is a really amazing riposte. Whenever I want to distance myself from someone's opinion, I always begin by some kind of introduction like this:
Because there is nothing about this man other than this single quote he said. He's so one dimensional that when Schryver said that he enjoyed his company, he was only referring to the quote, not anything else about the man.
static wrote:Well, if you'd bother to actually read what was written you'd discover that this whole thread is one big lying smear-piece on Schryver and Peterson. They didn't say it. It was a quote by am electrical engineer/piano player in New Orleans.
But both Will and Dan (as I read their posts) quote those words with apparent approval (with Dan finding some "good" coming from slavery, and Will congratulating the man who describes slavery as a "blessing").
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Rollo Tomasi wrote:But both Will and Dan (as I read their posts) quote those words with apparent approval (with Dan finding some "good" coming from slavery, and Will congratulating the man who describes slavery as a "blessing").
So? I find some good in almost everything. I find at least one good thing about the Nazi Regime: they made the Volkswagen. The rest is horrendous, but there is some measure of good. Nothing is all bad or all good, you see.
