lulu wrote:My informant tells me that DCP is hard at work on a rapsodic, lyrical epic blog post in double rhymed iambic pentameter about the glories that flow from the Native American genocide. Ray is providing research and editorial support.
That could potentially be quite moving, actually, since my great-grand mother was an Amerindian (born in the Caribbean). My siblings and I are the "remnants" of that genocide. I can even provide you her name, and a 1927 photo, but I'd never do anything like that on this mocking board.
Ray could be moved by a poem "about the glories that flow from the Native American genocide"?
About the genocide, maybe. But about the glories that flow from it???
Please.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Chap wrote: Ray could be moved by a poem "about the glories that flow from the Native American genocide"?
About the genocide, maybe. But about the glories that flow from it???
Please.
A glimpse of what glory does remain. The Caribs/Arawaks inhabited most of the Caribbean (hence the name), and the group on Dominica are believed to be the last of the "pure blood", or closest to pure blood, with only about 3,000 left. Earlier, in other parts of the Caribbean they interbred with the Europeans. My great-grandmother was actually a "child bride" (mid-late teens), so I'd better stop there! lol. Enough reminiscing anyway.
RayAgostini wrote: That can't be representative - it's happy and singing. You need to dig up something frothing at the mouth.
Oh, okay.
No, it's not Chris.
Hold on there! Is Schryver actually trying to give Smith a smooch? I just threw up a bit. You know, just enough to get that nasty after taste on the very back of your tongue?
Schryver looks like maybe he'd just been in the restroom sneaking sips from a flask.
I'm also trying to decide if he bears some resemblance to a younger Hugh Nibley ...
"I do not want you to think that I am very righteous, for I am not." Joseph Smith (History of the Church 5:401)
Chap wrote: Ray could be moved by a poem "about the glories that flow from the Native American genocide"?
About the genocide, maybe. But about the glories that flow from it???
Please.
A glimpse of what glory does remain. The Caribs/Arawaks inhabited most of the Caribbean (hence the name), and the group on Dominica are believed to be the last of the "pure blood", or closest to pure blood, with only about 3,000 left. Earlier, in other parts of the Caribbean they interbred with the Europeans. My great-grandmother was actually a "child bride" (mid-late teens), so I'd better stop there! lol. Enough reminiscing anyway.
That's cool as hell (no snark). Did I just exoticize you? You're right, everything I've read on the 100% genocide thing has been about Arawaks and focuses on Puerto Rico. It's been a really interesting conversation, DNA has cut through a lot of it, but it has been a while since I worked with it. Now I need to read up on Dominica. So are you sure your grandmother was part Carib, or do you just assume she was because she is from Dominica (maybe a little snark.)
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Oh dear. That tie .... I hope I would feel equally disturbed by it if I was a Mormon.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
lulu wrote:So are you sure your grandmother was part Carib, or do you just assume she was because she is from Dominica (maybe a little snark.)
The only certain thing is that she was Carib/Arawak. The way the story goes is that the Arawaks were a peaceful people, and the Caribs "fierce and warlike", and the Caribs often conquered and dominated the Arawaks, and "stole" their women and "took them as wives". She was "officially" known as a Carib, but going back into her ancestry she may well have been Arawak (through her ancestors). In the only photo I have of her, she has distinct "Indian" features, which I've sometimes described as a "Geronimo look" (square face, etc). She was not from Dominica, but was born in Trinidad, where there would only be perhaps a handful of "full blood" Caribs left. The Caribs were reported to be "expert sailors" who navigated by the stars and criss-crossed the Caribbean in dug-out canoes. So they were all over the Caribbean, not just Dominica.
lulu wrote:So are you sure your grandmother was part Carib, or do you just assume she was because she is from Dominica (maybe a little snark.)
The only certain thing is that she was Carib/Arawak. The way the story goes is that the Arawaks were a peaceful people, and the Caribs "fierce and warlike", and the Caribs often conquered and dominated the Arawaks, and "stole" their women and "took them as wives". She was "officially" known as a Carib, but going back into her ancestry she may well have been Arawak (through her ancestors). In the only photo I have of her, she has distinct "Indian" features, which I've sometimes described as a "Geronimo look" (square face, etc). She was not from Dominica, but was born in Trinidad, where there would only be perhaps a handful of "full blood" Caribs left. The Caribs were reported to be "expert sailors" who navigated by the stars and criss-crossed the Caribbean in dug-out canoes. So they were all over the Caribbean, not just Dominica.
Thanks for that. I'll try to keep the peace for a post or two and not ask how the h@!! did you become a Mormon?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
